No Reason needed to ask for papers

[wetibbe]

Originally Posted by usa today

Megyn Kelly, Fox News, who is an attorney, just said she read the entire Arizona bill and she researched federal case files. It appears there was a Supreme Court ruling in 2005 that said law enforcement can ask for immigration papers for NO reason. They don't even need to have a reasonable suspicion. She also said it was a unanimous ruling. Very Happy She said the Arizona law is weak compared to the federal one.

Copied from another forum , But I did see the report myself

I've also said for a long time that this was the case , law enforcement doesn't need a reason ,

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As I have said, and posted numerous times, State and local police can enforce Federal laws in some respects. Arizona Sheriff Clarence Dupnik acknowledged that he already has authority. The Chief of police, Danbury, Connecticut, wrote a letter, copy of which I have, acknowledging that local police can enforce provisions of Federal laws.

The FEDERAL government, which Barry Soetero is presently presiding in, TRAINS local law enforcement in the program F-287-G which Sheriff Joe Arpaio uses all the time. The nut jobs in DC have been poking around in Maricopa County for 1 1/2 years and haven't nailed anyone yet racially profiling.

The thing that local law enforcement can't do is deport aliens.

This whole hullabaloo about SB1070 is just so much trumped up propaganda and outright lies. Shameless. These morons *( left, liberal progressives ) know better.

And Felipe Calderon is surely the most outrageous buffoon of all spouting that he doesn't like Arizona law. Of course he doesn't like it - but he also is clueless as to what it actually says.

Hey - Felipe, mind your own business ! I have some news for you. Arizona isn't a Mexican state.

[Rim05]

Mexico has been meddling in our business for so long they think they have the RIGHT TO DO WHAT EVER THEY WANT. Mexico is sucking every dollar it can out of the US under the guise of fighting the Cartels. The US is dumb to support and fund anything in Mexico.
All the above is my opinion.

[usa today]

However, the ACLU might have a difficult time making that case. In 2005, the U.S. Supreme Court handed down a unanimous decision in Muehler v. Mena that questioning someone regarding their immigration status is not a violation of Fourth Amendment rights provided that person is already lawfully detained.

In the wake of a drive by shooting, Officer Muehler and other members of local law enforcement handcuffed and questioned Iris Mena in connection to the shooting. They did so while executing a search warrant for safe house which she and members of West Side Locos gang would gather at, most of whom were illegal immigrants. Small wonder, then, that they asked if she was in the country illegally.

Muehler v Mena establishes that “officers did not need reasonable suspicion to ask Mena for her name, date and place of birth, or immigration status.”

Even though this was a gang-related case, “no additional Fourth Amendment justification for inquiring about Mena’s immigration status was required.” If that’s true in California, it’s true in Arizona. This is a strong precedent, with six justices from that unanimous decision remaining on the bench.

Certainly, Arizona law enforcement must take care not to be heavy handed, but the choice between heavy-handed local police action and wide open borders was forced upon the states by past administrations and congresses which punted on the illegal immigration rather than do the hard work of governing.

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