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Old 06-24-2013, 06:34 AM
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I haven't given up on Boxer and Feintein either. Not that I believe they wouldn't like to see amnesty, but I've tried the different tack of tying this to the recent NSA spy scandal, and telling them that the voters are now getting fed up with the official party line and there'll be a revolt come election time, this one against the dems for spying, trying to dismiss it as necessary, and then trying to buy their souls back with amnesty
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Old 06-24-2013, 07:00 AM
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Good one Ayatollah.

I'm beginning to see signs that the Capitol phone lines are buckling under the weight of our calls. A lot of my calls are being dropped. When calling directly to Senators offices, calls are being directed to the capitol switch board, and then being dropped.
It reminds me of when we were calling just before the final vote on the 2007 amnesty, phone lines were going hay wire.

They said the capacity of the phone lines at the Capitol were greatly expanded after that 2007 incident, but I can tell we are really testing the system today.
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Old 06-24-2013, 01:07 PM
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I'm taking a late lunch and making some calls to the Senate.

Seems most of the phone lines are wide open. Here's your chance to get connected.
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Old 06-24-2013, 04:26 PM
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Sorry guy's, we didn't stop one member or cosponsor of the Corker-Hoeven fig leaf amendment. They all voted as planned.

I guess it wasn't possible to stop them from voting against their own amendment.

It's now a different game all together, as I believe the next vote will be to end discussion on the bill and to end the ability to filibuster.

I believe there will be two more votes on the amnesty bill. One to cut off debate, and the last to pass the bill.

I'm still waiting to hear back with reports from our calls this morning, but from my own experience, call volume was very strong and many of my calls were dropped or went unconnected because of the call volume. As I said in my earlier post I noticed the phone lines starting to go hay wire this morning, which means there was an enormous outpouring of calls to stop the amnesty.

Senator's Sessions, Vitter and Cruz kept saying in the Numbers USA tele -conference that we must keep calling, and our call volume is critical to stop the bill. They both said our calls and emails are the only thing that can stop this.

Sorry we don't have good news, just more work ahead of us. This week is extremely critical.

I pledge to be up and calling by 5:30 AM every day this week and call for three hours.

67 Senators voted for the fig leaf amendment. we need to win over or scare over 8 Senators to defeat the nation crushing amnesty.

Lets show them what we've got.
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Old 06-24-2013, 08:48 PM
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Anybody want to post their thoughts?
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Old 06-24-2013, 09:28 PM
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The amendment, so called fig leaf, is a little hard to vote against. "Senator so-and-so voted against a border fence". So this may not be so much a key vote. It could be a semi clever plot though, with an as yet unplayed diabolical twist ahead. We may have our hold-outs in the senate being lead to a trap, and maybe they are just a bit wiser than we give them credit for. the dems are as predictable as the sun, as usual.
It's really hard for us in California, because we're stuck with the predictable ones, and we can't really put our heads in the frame of mind that lets us try to get in the thought process of the reasonable conservative holdouts.

I also see that this fight over immigration reform is getting some competition from several other issues. The spying scandal peels some away, and the IRS one has captivated the TEA party (they've always been taxes, taxes, taxes). Add to that the daily newscasts that have been chock full of people exhibiting the most bizarre behaviors I've had the displeasure to read, and you have a recipe for being frozen-in-the-headlights.

So now we just have to keep our wits about us as this drama unfolds, or plays itself out, depending on whether you believe it's already a done deal behind closed doors, or a nasty, politically bloody battle that could go either way.
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Old 06-25-2013, 06:54 AM
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Thanks for the input Ayatollah, I'm glad to have someone to talk to about all that's going on.
I just finished my calls to all the sponsor's and co sponsors of the Hoeven-Corker amendment this morning. I vented a lot of anger to these criminals we have in the Senate. They knew what's coming this morning and the Senators put the kids on the line to take it for them.

You raise some good points that we really don't know what is going on, as too why the Republican Senators are betraying us and voting for the Amnesty.

One thing I've been thinking lately is in 2006 the amnesty bill passed the Senate, we had a Republican lead House that year and there was no way they were going to pass the amnesty in the House. Maybe it was easier for Republican Senators to pass the amnesty because they knew it wasn't going to become law.

2007 was a lot scarier, because Pelosi was speaker of the house, and if it passed the Senate it wouldn't have been a problem to pass the house also.

Maybe the Republican Senators this time around are using their vote to pass the amnesty in the Senate, collect the money from Adelson and the US Chamber of commerce, because they feel confident it's dead in the House?

Then again, maybe we've just been betrayed.

We are not sure if Boehner is going to betray us, but his name is "Bone-er".

On a side note the only sparks that flew were when I called Feinstein's office and told the call taker that first the government spy's on us and now they are voting to depress our wages. Boy the call taker didn't like the spying accusations, but couldn't care less about the amnesty topic.

I should also mention that a lot of people think the IRS/Tea party scandal and the government spying on citizen's scandal is all meant to distract the public from the real crime that's going on in the Senate as they try to surrender the country.

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