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In reflecting on the history of mass shootings, I am impressed by the number of shooters who were either (1) drug users and/or (2) were on probation for drug or other kinds of crimes. It seems as though almost every mass murderer or political assassin since Lee Harvey Oswald was either working with some law enforcement or intelligence agency or was on probation or parole.
Lee Harvey Oswald worked in the intelligence community and was an FBI and CIA informant. It is probable that his so called "defection" to the USSR was part of a intelligence program to groom people as malcontents and traitors in order to have them "defect" to the USSR in order to conduct espionage during the Cold War years. I read an article about the school shootings that suddenly came into vogue in the 1989 time period and virtually all of those shooters were users of psycho pharmacological products. The infamous 1989 school shooter in Bakersfield or Stockton, I forget which, who unloaded on school kids with an AK 47 (at the height of the debate about the California Assault Weapons Law) was on drugs and had a history of drug use. (How convenient.) There is an historic pattern in the passage of ever more draconian laws, especially gun control laws. There is usually a great controversy about one of these laws, and then some extraordinary outrage changes the public consciousness and puts the law over the top. Assassinations of JFK, MLK and RFK put over the Gun Control Act of 1968. 1989 School shooting put over the California Assault Weapons law. 9/11 put over the so called 'Patriot Act" which was a revival of the old Clinton Anti-Terrorist Law from the 1990's. Now we find out the Tuscon shooter had a criminal history, a history of law enforcement contacts and he was actually stopped by the cops on the day of the shooting. Immediately the County Sheriff comes out with politically motivated, pro-left rhetoric. (Will he be an expert witness for the defense? ![]() Was he alone nut or a carefully managed, manipulated "Manchurian Candidate" type nut? Is the Tuscon shooting another event designed by puppet masters to socially engineer us and shift the public consciousness to the left and soften us up for more restrictive laws? It certainly fits the pattern, but only time, and more facts, will tell.I think the jury is out. Last edited by Don; 01-13-2011 at 03:57 AM. |
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Oswald, for example, is somebody who was well known for a long time by our government. He was a former US marine and a communist activist and defector and had probably been watched as a security matter in those days for a long time. But he was also somebody, as an activist, who was well known at some community level by both communists and anti-communists alike. Somewhere the attention he had at the community level intersected with the attention he had at the government level and he was applied to be framed as the assassin of JFK. I don't think the government was involved, but there were those in the community who applied what they knew from government connections in order to set him up. His job at the book warehouse, for example, was no accident.
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Here's a list of massacres:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spree_killer As I go through it I see that quite a number of incidents are missing. For example the Scotland school shooting, the shooting of those little Amish school girls in Pennsylvania, Son of Sam, David Berkowitz, Angel Rescindez, the Mexican, Railroad killer. But here's even more by category: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ber_of_victims So if homo sapiens isn't shooting he is stabbing and if he isn't stabbing he is poisoning like Jim Jones, Guyana and Marshall Applewhite, Hale Bop comet and Heavens Gate and if he AND she isn't doing that then THEY are massacring millions like the Czar of Russia and family by the Bolsheviks, or engaged in genocide like Stalin in Russia, Adolph Hitler - exterminating 6 Million Jews, or the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia, or Chairman Mao Zedong, China, or the Darfur, Sudan genocide and on and on................. So it isn't a uniquely American fad. It is common to the species, inherent in the makeup. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the matter of gun control I have been an NRA member for over 50 years so I receive a magazine " American Hunter " as well as mail regularly and E-mails frequently. So I have been extremely well informed about the gun control advocates for many decades. The NRA is definitely gaining ground and suppressing the opponents and advocates of gun control. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Drugs - marijuana, heroin, Peyote, cocaine, hemp, Khat, are flora, biological, plants that contain some alkaloids or other constituents that have some effect on humans in various ways. Coffee, tea, coca leaves, beetle nut, tobacco are stimulants to humans. Locoweed is a name common to several species of plants that affect livestock and game, horses, cattle, sheep, deer, elk. LSD and Methamphetamine are chemical concoctions along with several other manufactured products even including glue that is sniffed by teenagers. Alcoholic beverages have been produced in one form or another for multiple millenia from just about everything, honey, grains, corn, apples, grapes, plums, cherries, fruits, vegetables; and that are "administered by ingesting " drinking/swallowing and even in the high Andes by the indigenous natives by enema using a deer antler drilled and hollowed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I really do not see anything complicated about understanding Jared Loughner. Media reports have very aptly described him as abnormal mentally. Abnormal psychology is the branch of psychology that studies unusual patterns of behavior, emotion and thought, which may or may not be understood as precipitating a mental disorder. There is a long history of attempts to understand and control behavior deemed to be aberrant or deviant (statistically, morally or in some other sense), and there is often cultural variation in the approach taken. The field of abnormal psychology identifies multiple different causes for different conditions, employing diverse theories from the general field of psychology and elsewhere, and much still hinges on what exactly is meant by "abnormal". There has traditionally been a divide between psychological and biological explanations, reflecting a philosophical dualism in regard to the mind body problem, as well as different approaches to the classification of mental disorders. Clinical psychology is the applied field of psychology that seeks to assess, understand and treat psychological conditions in clinical practice. The theoretical field known as "abnormal psychology" may form a backdrop to such work, but clinical psychologists are nowadays unlikely to use the term "abnormal" in reference to their practice. Psychopathology is a similar term to abnormal psychology but has more of an implication of an underlying pathology (disease process), and as such is a term more commonly used in the medical specialty known as psychiatry. I think it should be understood that Jared, even now, creeps out his guards as he just sits and stares with a smirk on his face. His behavior in college was so noticeable that is scared practically everyone. Now the question arises; - if narcotics or hallucionogens were the culptit ? and I say no, not necesarily. They didn't send a "normal" person into a mental state of abnormality. The abnormality already existed and the effects of the mind altering substances exacerbated the condition. We can further try to understand how the naturally occuring "elements" in plants growing in natural conditions affect the brain. Since I contend that humans are nothing more that a species of Hominidae - The Hominidae (anglicized hominids, also known as great apes), as the term is used here, form a taxonomic family, including four extant genera: PathologyIntoxication with swainsonine has several kinds of effect. Livestock that graze for several weeks on locoweed (and little else) develop a lysosomal storage disease similar to genetic mannosidosis.[17] Swainsonine inhibits a lysosomal enzyme, alpha-mannosidase.[18] This results in abnormal accumulation of the molecules normally processed by the enzyme, and this accumulation leads to vacuolation of most tissues. Vacuolation is most obvious in neurons and epithelial cells. The vacuolation resolves shortly after poisoning is discontinued, but if the vacuolation is so severe that it destroys cells, it may result in some neurologic damage that is irreversible and permanent.[17] The damage is highly varied. In cattle at high altitude, complications of locoism can include congestive heart failure.[19] In cattle, sheep, and goats, locoweed poisoning causes reproductive losses. [edit] DiagnosisDiagnosis of clinical poisoning is generally made by documenting exposure, identifying the neurologic signs, and analyzing serum for alpha-mannosidase activity and swainsonine.[17] In mule deer, clinical signs of locoism are similar to chronic wasting disease. Histological signs of vacuolation provide a differential diagnosis.[20] Sub-clinical intoxication has been investigated in cattle grazing on Astragalus mollissimus. As the estimated intake of swainsonine increased, blood serum alpha-mannosidase activity and albumin decreased, and alkaline phosphatase and thyroid hormone increased.[21] Last edited by wetibbe; 01-14-2011 at 06:07 AM. |
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