Patriots need to visit Congressional offices this August.

[ilbegone]

An added suggestion:

Those legislators need to understand that we know all that talk about "border security" is meaningless without a commitment to prosecute and incarcerate employers of illegal aliens.

Otherwise the continuing violations of our national sovereignty will never end.

[Greg in LA]

I went in to McKeons office a few weeks ago, and they started to give me that same old tired line about "border security", and I couldn't help but say every politician from Obama, to Schumer says they believe in strong border security, then they obstruct and vote down any efforts and legislation to actually enforce our borders.

Granted when I came they didn't exactly know what side I was on, but when I identified myself as a Republican wanting to talk about the Congressman's position on illegal immigration they shouldn't be so clueless.

I'm finished toying around with McKeon, Despite having a good record on immigration policies, I now think he is getting wobbly on the issue.

My contact at FAIR is suggesting that I go in again unannounced and tell them I'm going to stay in their office until I get my questions answered. I should also bring a sack lunch. In other words, if they are going to dodge giving me real answers on McKeons positions I'm going to make myself a royal pain in the ass.

[ilbegone]

There are some sayings which leave no doubt as to the meaning, such as

"He'd rather hear a fat boy fart than a pretty girl sing"

"That woman is meaner than cat shit"

or, "That statement has all the sincerity of a politician's thank you letter".


My Congressman is Raul Ruiz. He says he is an emergency room physician, from his gleaming website picture he appears to be a relatively young man. He's also a Democrat and I have little doubt that he's been indoctrinated into brown ethnic nationalism.

I finally told him the full extent of what I expected from him (without mincing any words) concerning illegal immigration and send me an answer which directly addressed my stated concerns rather than that same say nothing, meaningless "thank you letter" he's already sent me several times in response.

In all the times I've contacted him since, there has been no reply. I suspect his staff deletes my email on arrival without reading the content.

Whether or not I can get through to him, I believe over the phone I gave one of his aides a genuine pause for thought that all those sewage flooded, electrical shock hazard, dilapidated, submarine depth substandard trailer parks where illegal farm workers live in his district are directly caused by something that bedeviled Cesar Chavez his whole labor activist life - a large labor pool illegally arrived from Mexico which agribusiness invariably hired to break his strikes for better pay and working conditions. And, that Chavez indeed reluctantly called the Border Patrol on illegal strike breakers, but the Border patrol did nothing more than laugh at and mock him.

The kid did seem genuinely affected by what I said, but it may have been an act. It is a fact that farm employers beat down wages by the desperation of a large labor pool who will individually work for cheaper than the next, and the open borders, "make 'em all citizens" crowd are directly responsible for all that poverty.

July 10, 2013
Press Release



WASHINGTON, DC – Today Dr. Raul Ruiz (D-Palm Desert) released the following statement after meeting with President Obama and fellow members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus at the White House to discuss immigration reform:

“Passing comprehensive immigration reform now is critical for the 36th District and our nation. In our meeting with President Obama today, we discussed how we can build on the bipartisan work of the Senate and pass comprehensive immigration reform legislation in the House that includes an earned path to citizenship, secures our borders, promotes fairness, protects our workers and businesses, and helps strengthen our economy, especially our local agriculture and tourism economies in the 36th District. It’s time for Congress to put partisanship aside and work together toward solutions to reform our broken immigration system and pass a meaningful comprehensive immigration bill now.”

U.S. Representative Raul Ruiz, M.D., grew up in the community of Coachella, California, where both of his parents were farmworkers.

http://ruiz.house.gov/about/full-biography

Raul Ruiz appears to have had a problem with Thanksgiving in America, having climbed atop Plymouth Rock and, according to the Harvard Crimson in 1998, having exclaimed that “(Thanksgiving) is the glorification of an incident in history which has a direct link to the… poverty and oppression which we experience today.” http://www.voxxi.com/raul-ruiz-democrat-36-district/

In 1997, while attending Harvard as a medical student, Ruiz participated in an annual Thanksgiving protest in Plymouth, Massachusetts. Ruiz was arrested after police attempted to disperse the protest, though he has claimed he was only arrested for defending an elderly Native American man from police.[11] Ruiz pleaded not guilty to charges of disorderly conduct and tumultuous behavior, which were eventually dropped.[12]

Two years later, in 1999, Ruiz took part in another Thanksgiving protest at which he read a letter of support for Leonard Peltier, who was convicted and sentenced to two consecutive terms of life imprisonment for first degree murder in the shooting of two Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) special agents during a 1975 conflict on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation. The incident was used by Mary Bono Mack, Ruiz's 2012 congressional opponent, in her campaign against him. The Ruiz campaign denied that Ruiz supports Peltier.[12] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raul_Ruiz_%28politician%29

His main office is in Palm Springs. Briefly searching I find no mention of a woman in his life or of any children.

[Greg in LA]

Yuck! what a truly horrible person your Congressmen is.

You must have a stomach of Iron to spend one minutes dealing with him.

If the amnesty passes the House, your Congressmen is the prime example of the future political leadership of our country. It's unbelievable that so many Americans are so asleep about this!

Just reading the quote from Raul Ruiz make me want to reach for the Pepto Bismol, and I'm not joking.

[ilbegone]

Originally Posted by Greg in LA

Yuck! what a truly horrible person your Congressmen is.

You must have a stomach of Iron to spend one minutes dealing with him.

If the amnesty passes the House, your Congressmen is the prime example of the future political leadership of our country. It's unbelievable that so many Americans are so asleep about this!

Just reading the quote from Raul Ruiz make me want to reach for the Pepto Bismol, and I'm not joking.

I don't know Ruiz personally. As individual to individual, he might not be a bad person. He is a product of his background and experiences.

There are people who judge me as a racist based on my convictions concerning illegal immigration without any knowledge of whom I associate with and my further convictions.

Raul's parents were immigrant Mexican farm workers, My Elena's father was an immigrant employed in one of the first industries to exploit immigrant Mexicans, her mother was also born in Mexico. Elena herself worked in the fields during the summer to earn money for school clothes, an adolescent and teenage girl might want something more than clothes stitched together from La Pina flour sacks and mom took a big cut of the cash. They were dirt poor.

I don't know the circumstances of the childhoods of either Ruiz or his parents, but Elena spent a significant portion of her childhood living in a dirt floor house with a wood stove and an outhouse right here in America. Water had to be carried into the house, the bucket that served as a night time chamber pot was carried out in the morning.

Ruiz was born in the Coachella valley in 1971, Elena became an adult in the barrio before the 1964 civil rights act. Ruiz might talk about white racism like it is still 1956, Elena remembers that year as a brown person with a Spanish last name living not all that far from the Coachella Valley.

When Elena went to school, the white kids often made fun of the fact that she had a quesadilla or rolled taco for lunch rather than a sandwich. Tacos and quesadillas are everywhere now.

Ruiz can babble all he wants about Thanksgiving as a day of minority repression, Elena's family ate turkey with the fixin's on Thanksgiving. It was the only day of the year they didn't have beans and tortillas with every meal, and they usually ate meat only once a month, couldn't afford much of it. The white butcher they patronized often gave them more meat than he charged them for. She jokes that she is a frijolera.

There were tamales and beans for Christmas, a ham at Easter.

A lot of kids are indoctrinated into brown ethnic nationalism in college, maybe Ruiz is one of those who believe that the Mexican American war garnered the US the best part of Mexico - the part that was paved and had all the modern conveniences.

[Greg in LA]

It's funny that you mention, poverty as it applies to agriculture and agricultural labor.

I was talking to an elderly Armenian gentlemen at my church, He moved from NYC to Visalia, CA in the late 1940's or the early 1950's, with his parents. His relatives owned some type of farm in Visalia. He described being poor in NYC, but from his point of view people were poorer in Visalia. He described his relatives as not all having proper shoes to wear, and worn out clothes, and rarely having meat on the table. They were not migrant workers, they were land owners, yet from his point of view, they lived an extremely meager existence.
It's funny that the Armenian's from that era don't chalk their economic plight down to "racism", the way that Raul Ruiz does, in fact they do quite the opposite. If your ever read William Saroyan essays, he treats the whole central valley agricultural experience as quite playful and fun. I also don't think the Armenians from the Central valley would ever once have thought of requiring Armenian language in the schools, or voting booths or in public at all. They all learned English, and became Americans, end of story.

It's only the Mexicans that want to play the Brown race card.

And of course the large corporate owned farms that want the endless supply of cheap labor.

I also got the impression that in the early 1950's American farmers in California did their own work, and a plenty full supply of Mexican labor wasn't allowed.

[ilbegone]

Patriots need to visit Congressional offices this August.

August is a crucial time in our efforts to fight the nation crushing amnesty that is being pushed by the political elite in Washington...

The above is the topic of this thread, the quote is from the first post. Please read the first post.

Below is a continuation of the side discussion.

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I also got the impression that in the early 1950's American farmers in California did their own work, and a plenty full supply of Mexican labor wasn't allowed.

I believe that WWII was largely the advent of overwhelming Mexican farm labor in California. The boys went to war, Mexicans filled in and when the veterans came back, with the exception of a few like Ira Hayes, they had other things to do than weed fields with short handled hoes. There may have been some small family farms hanging on by the skins of their teeth, but I believe the trend was towards accumulative agribusiness - stock holders and corporate officers don't pick strawberries.

(An interesting character named Antonio Franco in Banning Ca. was still farming on a micro scale and selling vegetables at his stand until he died a few years ago, he was over 90 years old)

Most immigrants to the United States over the centuries have come because it was better than staying where they were. I believe the Armenians came after the Ottoman genocide. The 1910 Mexican Revolution created the first large scale Mexican exodus to the U.S., the Cristero war of the late 1920's likewise drove hundreds of thousands of Mexicans across the border, which created the first significantly large Mexican population in California (The Californios originated as a 1769 military expedition ordered by the King of Spain to colonize unexplored territory in order to counter Russian expansionism - they were a different people and a different discussion). The 1982 devaluation of the peso created a human tsunami from Mexico, the 1986 amnesty farce made it worse. The Mexican cartel killing fields are a current pressure.

Elena's father came as an orphan teenager from the Bajio (by the legal standards of his time), I'm not sure if he was a refugee. In any case he never had any desire to return to Mexico. If Ruiz's parents had complained about their life in the U.S. to Elena's father, he would have softly asked them why they didn't simply return to Mexico. Which would have shut them up because they would have to admit that Mother Mexico failed them and threw them out of the house. However, from across the border Mother Mexico scolds her children for neglecting her in their exile, and a loyal child never badmouths his mother.

Ruiz himself is another story. He probably never could have achieved what he has professionally and as an "activist" if he were not Americanized. Mexicanidad scorns Chicano bullshit, very few - if any - Mexican nationals would be inclined to feather up in purported Aztec costume to denounce Plymouth Rock in person. If Ruiz were entirely and typically lower class Mexican in his outlook (as most failed by Mexico are), he'd either be working a menial job or trying to make a fast, easy buck rather than becoming a physician and politician. In short, Ruiz is what is called a "University Mexican", an American pretender to "Mexican-ness".

Therefore, it is he and those of his mindset in partnership with exploitative employers who keep people like his parents in poverty. Being open borders he and his buddies create the Durovilles with an oversize foreign labor pool (drives down wages to rock bottom), then make themselves heroes by funding subsidized housing for farm workers, welfare subsidization (the kids may be the purported reason, but the money goes to the parents), other subsidization like utility discounts and free school meals while blaming victimization on the white boogeyman - and propagating the myth that nothing was ever accomplished in the U.S. without a Mexican doing the work.