Great interview:Issa Talks Real Immigration Reform

Jeanfromfillmore · #1 07-12-2010, 01:13 PM

Issa Talks Real Immigration Reform, GOP Prospects on CSPAN's "Newsmakers"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll6aBDFAZfI

Twoller · #2 07-12-2010, 02:47 PM

Issa: "... Orange County has had a program in their jails to try to not re-release, if you will, people who are both criminals and illegal immigrants."

"both criminals and illegal immigrants" Again, if you are an illegal immigrant, you are a criminal. Why is it Issa doesn't have it in his head that illegal immigrants are not already criminals?

Twoller · #3 07-12-2010, 02:57 PM

Issa:

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"We are not going to do another round of amnesty. Period. ... It didn't work in '86 ... that is a clear position of the Republicans ... After that everything else is in play, a guest worker program ... certainly, a transition for people already here so that they could either be converted to guest worker or exit the country in a fair way. All of that is in play. ... "

What?? A "transition" for people already here? Issa has found a new stealth term for amnesty.

Look for it elsewhere, "A transition for people already here".

Ayatollahgondola · #4 07-12-2010, 03:08 PM

well there you have it. Politician double talk

Jeanfromfillmore · #5 07-12-2010, 04:37 PM

I believe what he's saying is that the "transition" is to address those that are here now and to have them admit they're here, register, and then either self deport or consider working as a migrant on a limited time visa and no way to turn it into citizenship, and also not letting the family say here with them. I didn't hear anything about amnesty. What he's addressing is that we have to discuss how to either deport or deal with those that are here. Even if we deport every illegal, it can't be done in a day or week. So there has to be a plan on how to do it, there has to be steps. We're not magicians and the illegals won't disappear in a matter of minutes, hours or days. There has to be a procedure for ridding ourselves of them. That is called a "transition".

Twoller · #6 07-12-2010, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeanfromfillmore

I believe what he's saying is that the "transition" is to address those that are here now and to have them admit they're here, register, and then either self deport or consider working as a migrant on a limited time visa and no way to turn it into citizenship, and also not letting the family say here with them. I didn't hear anything about amnesty. What he's addressing is that we have to discuss how to either deport or deal with those that are here. Even if we deport every illegal, it can't be done in a day or week. So there has to be a plan on how to do it, there has to be steps. We're not magicians and the illegals won't disappear in a matter of minutes, hours or days. There has to be a procedure for ridding ourselves of them. That is called a "transition".

I don't think so. A transition from an illegal immigrant to a guest worker program is most certainly amnesty. And exactly what is he talking about when he says "exiting in a fair way?" If we throw out an illegal immigrant without prosecuting them for being here, then that's already more than fair.

If Issa wants to play word games with the word "amnesty", then let's let "amnesty" mean no prosecution for illegals who turn themselves in to be deported. Remember again, there is no such thing as lawful self deportation. If an illegal leaves the US by illegally crossing borders again, then they have commited a second crime and our borders have proven ineffective once again. It is just as great a security risk to have people leaving the country without scrutiny as it is for them to be coming in illegally.