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Old 03-17-2011, 08:00 PM
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I think you may be confusing immigrants to Japan, with migrant workers or temporary workers to Japan. Japan does not permit liberal immigration like the US does, so the majority of these people in the article are not pledging themselves to the country, nor could they. When Japan doesn't need them anymore, they can be told to leave. Not that they shouldn't be greatful anyway, but there is little in the way of incentive beyond a paycheck for them
Then why the re-entry permits?

I've posted articles about immigration problems in Japan before. It does have an immigration problem. There is the same rot there about allowing non-citizens to vote. There are serious national security problems because of North Koreans. And also, they insist on being educated in special schools like they are in North Korea. The Japanese suffer just like we do by being forced to act as a population relief valve for high birth rate countries like the Phillipines, and I'm guessing, China. And they hear the same lame pronouncements we do about how they are not reproducing fast enough to take care of themselves.
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Old 03-17-2011, 08:13 PM
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Then why the re-entry permits?

I've posted articles about immigration problems in Japan before. It does have an immigration problem. There is the same rot there about allowing non-citizens to vote. There are serious national security problems because of North Koreans. And also, they insist on being educated in special schools like they are in North Korea. The Japanese suffer just like we do by being forced to act as a population relief valve for high birth rate countries like the Phillipines, and I'm guessing, China. And they hear the same lame pronouncements we do about how they are not reproducing fast enough to take care of themselves.
I'll admit I know very little about Japan and their immigration issues. I do gather that they have a population problem though, because you see alot of people in a very small area. I doubt they have a reproduction problem that they could not solve...if they actually wanted to. They might just be of a mindset that doesn't sign on to the theory that growth in numbers is prosperity. Unfortunately, the rest of the gene pool out there doesn't consider restraint an avenue worthy of considering.
The temporary workers though, have no long term stake in the country if they cannot become a citizen, so it's no wonder that they go when the going gets tough, and come back when it's rosy
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Old 03-17-2011, 11:29 PM
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This one's old... UC Davis 1997

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More than 1,070 illegal immigrants have been arrested in Japan since January, compared with 679 in all of 1996. The National Police Agency reports that 90 percent of the illegal immigrants arrested were Chinese, most from Fujian Province.

More... http://migration.ucdavis.edu/mn/more.php?id=1373_0_3_0
2004 BBC

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Japanese authorities say there are 250,000 illegal immigrants, the majority of whom entered the country on a temporary visa and over-stayed. Many of these people are thought to work as unskilled labourers.

More... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3708098.stm

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Japan introduces ID cards to sniff out illegal immigrants

By Alice Kok | 2 March 2009

More... http://www.futuregov.asia/articles/2...llegal-immigr/
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Japan’s Ministry of Justice issued a reported stating that illegal immigrant numbers had dropped below 100,000 as of the beginning of 2010, a 21 year low.

According to a March 9th Ministry press release, based on computerized data of Japanese border entries and exits, approximately 91,778 foreign visitors are staying illegally within the country as of January 1st, 2010. The number is down 18.8% compared with 2009, and more than 50% lower than the number in 2006 when there were an estimated 193,745 violators.

According to a report from Press Net Japan, the last time the illegal immigrant numbers were below 100,000 was back in 1989. The number had reached a peak of over 300,000 by 1993, followed with a slow decline up until the sharp fall over the past few years.

The Ministry of Justice revealed that currently, the majority of illegal immigrants have come from other Asian countries. Top offenders include Korea (23.6%), China (14.1%), and the Philippines (14.0%). Others countries listed included: Thailand, Malaysia, Peru, Singapore, Sri Lanka, and Indonesia. However, 25.8% of all violators were from countries not listed in the report.

The majority (68.8%) of illegal immigrants had come to Japan on short-term stay visas. The number of male offenders is only slightly that above female, at 46,324 men to 45,454 women, respectively.

News reports indicated that the recent drop in illegal immigrant numbers may be in part due an increase in border security systems, including the adoption in late 2007 of the requirement for finger prints and photos upon entry into the country. There have also reportedly been an increasing number of cases where those who have illegally stayed beyond their visa terms have left voluntarily.

In similar news, the number of cases of both entry refusals and deportations in Japan had also decreased over the past year.

http://www.examiner.com/japan-headli...an-21-year-low
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..."There is little urban anonymity. When I first lived in Japan on a work visa and had my own apartment in a residential neighborhood of Tokyo, in 1971, I was paid a friendly visit by a local policeman. It was a completely routine matter: police are required to keep track of every resident of their beats, and they want to know the basics, such as your work, your age, and your living circumstances. In my circumstances, immigration papers were also of concern, but for Japanese, it would be the koseki, a mandatory official family record kept on a household basis, reporting births, acknowledgements of paternity, adoptions, disruptions of adoptions, deaths, marriages and divorces. Every Japanese is not just an individual, he or she is officially is a member of a household (ie), and the state keeps track."...

More... http://ukcommentators.blogspot.com/2...mmigrants.html
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Hard Work, Furtive Living - Illegal Immigrants in Japan

...A ski cap pulled low to conceal her wavy brown hair, Luz Martinez stands near Kawasaki Station, hoping to avoid any appearance of loitering in the busy terminal regularly staked out by Japanese immigration officials.

After 11 years of illegal work in low-paid jobs, Martinez has become adept at blending in with the crowd. She is one of an estimated 220,000 illegal migrants who live in Japan, most of them workers from China, Southeast Asia, South Asia and Latin America. ...

...Once in Japan, illegal immigrants face further barriers. Martinez, from Lima, Peru, was promised a "good job" in Japan by a friend of a friend. Although she had paid a broker $1,000, that job never materialized. With persistence, she found work packing frozen fish in Nagoya...

...Martinez has held 13 jobs in 11 years here...

more... http://www.globalenvision.org/library/3/986
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Old 03-17-2011, 11:48 PM
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Somewhat off subject, but interesting read:

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Why The Japanese Aren't Looting
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http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/...t_looting.html
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