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Old 03-05-2010, 12:25 PM
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E-Verify measure killed
Would have required employers to check residential status of new hires
Peter Marcus, DDN Staff Writer
Thursday, March 4, 2010
A Senate committee yesterday killed legislation that would have required all Colorado businesses to use a federal database to verify the legal residential status of new hires.
For Sen. Dave Schultheis, R-Colorado Springs, the fifth time is not the charm. That’s how many times the anti-illegal immigration crusader has attempted to pass legislation that would require Colorado employers to use the federal E-Verify system. The online system checks the immigration and residential status of all potential new workers in seconds.
But the Senate State, Veterans & Military Affairs Committee killed the legislation on a 2-3 Democratic party-line vote. The vote came after hearing testimony from both sides of the aisle. Business groups opposed the measure because they felt it would place an unfair burden on them. Some Colorado residents came out in favor of the legislation, arguing that undocumented workers are taking their jobs and killing their dreams.
Schultheis hoped that he would be more successful this year given the current state of the economy. He said Senate Bill 33 would have helped with the state’s significant unemployment situation, as well as the state’s severe budget deficit, arguing that both issues are inter-linked.
Passage of this bill is going to help many of our very own constituents who have lost, or will lose their jobs over the next months and quite possibly years, find work, said Schultheis.
But business owners and groups lined up to protest the legislation.
Travis Berry, a lobbyist representing the Denver Metro Chamber of Commerce, raised concerns over the integrity of the E-Verify system, as well as the administrative burden it would place on employers.
I really don’t see the value of this system until it is made to a higher standard where more names are accurate and the system has greater integrity, said Berry.
Hans Meyer, political coordinator for the Colorado Immigrant Rights Coalition, spoke of potential misuse of the E-Verify system. He said the debate should be about comprehensive immigration reform, not just one aspect of it.
Passing this bill at this point for this state is improvident public policy because it’s not tethered to a larger discourse around immigration reform or encompasses a package that addresses an undocumented population and enforcement of the borders, due process protections, as well as how and when and what any sort of employment regime can and should look like, said Meyer.
Meanwhile, former Congressman Tom Tancredo, also an anti-illegal immigration crusader, is working on a ballot initiative for this year that would require all Colorado businesses to use E-Verify to verify the legal residential status of new hires. The initiative would require the state Legislature to mandate that businesses use the E-Verify system.
Supporters say undocumented workers are taking their jobs at a time when the economy is poor and jobs are needed.
SB 33 would be a step in the right direction to ensure that the jobs are going to legalized citizens of this state, said Pam Williams, who identified herself only as a Colorado resident and testified during the Senate hearing yesterday. We are looking to you, our elected officials, in protecting our dream that we have in owning a home for our families and ourselves, to put food on our tables for our families, to send our kids to school to get a proper education that will give them the basis and the foundation to lead our country into the next century Ń we cannot do that if we continue to turn a blind eye to the illegal citizens that are illegally residing in this state and taking our jobs away from us.
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Old 03-05-2010, 12:54 PM
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There has to be a better way to apply E-verify so that US citizens are protected and do not have to go through the process when applying for employment. Policing illegals at the time when they apply for employment is a burden on both the employer and US citizens who are looking for work. Illegals should not even get that close to be able to apply for work.

Here's an idea, why not make E-verify mandatory only in the case where the employer or anyone involved in hiring for an employer is not a US citizen. Let's face it, the vast majority of hiring of illegals is done by non-citizens, people who are in the country legally, but not US citizens.
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Old 03-05-2010, 01:42 PM
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There has to be a better way to apply E-verify so that US citizens are protected and do not have to go through the process when applying for employment. Policing illegals at the time when they apply for employment is a burden on both the employer and US citizens who are looking for work. Illegals should not even get that close to be able to apply for work.

Here's an idea, why not make E-verify mandatory only in the case where the employer or anyone involved in hiring for an employer is not a US citizen. Let's face it, the vast majority of hiring of illegals is done by non-citizens, people who are in the country legally, but not US citizens.
That would be a great idea, if it were not for the fact that there is black market for phony identification documents. All one has to do in Los Angeles is head down to the MacArthur Park area and you can get set-up with a phony driver's license and Social Security card for about $100. So E-Verify has to be implemented not on a selective case-by-case basis, but on every hire an employer makes.

Further, the whine of the businessmen about the "burden" of running E-Verify is bunk. Nearly every job I have applied for in the past year has required that I submit to some sort of background check. Some employers are even going so far as to do credit checks on potential employees! If businesses can willingly spend $50 or $60 on background and credit checks, they can be forced to perform E-Verify be the government.

Once again, we see who is really on the side of screwing the Americans they so piously claim to be protecting, the Democrats.
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There has to be a better way to apply E-verify so that US citizens are protected and do not have to go through the process when applying for employment. Policing illegals at the time when they apply for employment is a burden on both the employer and US citizens who are looking for work. Illegals should not even get that close to be able to apply for work.

Here's an idea, why not make E-verify mandatory only in the case where the employer or anyone involved in hiring for an employer is not a US citizen. Let's face it, the vast majority of hiring of illegals is done by non-citizens, people who are in the country legally, but not US citizens.
Because many illegals have phony birth certificates and other phony documents. Everyone should go through the process of verifying they're legal to work. The effort it takes is minimal compared to the benefit it creates for every citizen and legal resident in this country.
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