White Nationalist Alert

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[Don]

Originally Posted by DerailAmnesty.com

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Thank God you're on the ball. What could be more threatening than white people showing up at a rally?

[DerailAmnesty.com]

Originally Posted by Don

Thank God you're on the ball. What could be more threatening than white people showing up at a rally?

White supremacists showing up at our rallies, that would be more threatening.

Are you one of those folks who likes to play Orwellian games with definitions and labels? If I say illegal aliens are you going to insist upon calling them immigrants, too?

[PochoPatriot]

Originally Posted by Don

Thank God you're on the ball. What could be more threatening than white people showing up at a rally?

I was at the Simi Valley sanctuary church a couple of years ago when neo-Nazis showed up. I could not have been more proud of the old SOS as then, when Old Preach demanded that they leave the protest. Unfortunately, Naui used them to attempt to paint the entire protest as being a white power rally.

Don, if you are that supportive of this organization, don't you think that their board, and their events would better suit you? After all this board is multi-cultural and I would hope would not support any members or supporters of ANY white power group.

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by PochoPatriot

After all this board is multi-cultural and I would hope would not support any members or supporters of ANY white power group.

We are not multi-cultural here. One Culture; American. We may be multi-racial though.

[Twoller]

Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola

We are not multi-cultural here. One Culture; American. We may be multi-racial though.

Agreed. Although I am weak on the notion of our culture being "American". I think we need to be more specific than that.

Our culture is the culture of the United States Citizen. Our culture is the culture of citizenship.

It's true, there are a lot of word games going on. Increasingly I think the idea of being an "American" does not include anything like being a US citizen any more.

Not only is our culture the culture of US citizenship, but we advance the idea of national citizenship for other countries as well and respect their citizenship no matter what their race. Most peoples deserves a country they can call their own that respects the borders of others as well as their own. This is a respectable enough notion that people are willing to lie about their claims to nationalism, just as people lie about claims to citizenship.

[Rim05]

I was at the Simi Valley event and I am so proud of our OLD SOS that day. I am no expert on skin heads but that is what I thought when I saw them sweep in with their American flags. I went looking for OP but someone else found him before I did. They tried to agrue their case but had to leave or area.
Thank you Old Members.

[ilbegone]

Originally Posted by Twoller

Agreed. Although I am weak on the notion of our culture being "American". I think we need to be more specific than that.

Our culture is the culture of the United States Citizen. Our culture is the culture of citizenship.

It's true, there are a lot of word games going on. Increasingly I think the idea of being an "American" does not include anything like being a US citizen any more.

Not only is our culture the culture of US citizenship, but we advance the idea of national citizenship for other countries as well and respect their citizenship no matter what their race. Most peoples deserves a country they can call their own that respects the borders of others as well as their own. This is a respectable enough notion that people are willing to lie about their claims to nationalism, just as people lie about claims to citizenship.

I'm not slamming you in this post, just some commentary.

American culture does change to some extent as time goes on. 1830's America was not quite the same as 1780's America, just as the early 20th century was not the same as America in the 1950's.

However, there was a continuity of something which came out of the English Civil War (fought on both sides of the Atlantic) which infused itself into a dynamic, classically American essence of American culture. However, that is being chipped away by our education system and instant gratification of short attention spans.

I would agree that we are a nation of citizens rather than a nation of immigrants, but I'm not sure if the definition of culture is that of "citizenship" as opposed to "American".

In this context I am reminded of all those people who join Fraternal organizations not because of any great desire to to be helpfully brotherly or exert oneself towards the purported charitable goals of those organizations, but rather to take benefit of the "economy boozing" to be found in many of those organizations.

So they join up for cheap drinks and spend their time forming cliques and stabbing each other in the back.

It seems that same scenario is what America is all about anymore.

God, did I just depress myself.

I'm going to go have a drink...

[PochoPatriot]

Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola

We are not multi-cultural here. One Culture; American. We may be multi-racial though.

A term definition is needed here. I believe in "soft" multi-culturalism". This means that people of various cultures are respected, but never given a superior position. There are different cultures in this country that though "American" have unique characteristics. Hard "multi-culturalism" is the state in which all non-white cultures are given a superior position, and white culture is denigrated and disparaged.

[ilbegone]

The point: We will never convince the most rabidly opposed to employment and immigration law enforcement otherwise. Never. The value of your actions and the merits of what you have to say count for nothing. Their minds and hearts are made up. They will accuse us of racism to the bitter end.

This is true. There is no convincing the terminally rabid.

However, there are those among "Latino" citizens who aren't totally poisoned by "Latino advocates" who benefited from Johnson and Nixon's continuing and greatly accelerated "affirmative action" policies and now loudly pretend forty years later that it's still 1954 in terms of racial equality.

In allegorical terms, you might call them "independents" as compared to "democrats" and "republicans", the swing vote you might say.

Does it make a crap whether we have people around us who confuse them with illegal aliens and are just as rabidly racist as "Latino advocates" are when the press isn't around?

It does.