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Old 12-21-2009, 07:46 AM
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Don, I don't think it was a stupid comment at all, even looking back on it. Here's an example of what you said in your post: "I pray for the day when these monsters riot and what's left of the American people see them on TV as they pull white people out of cars and beat and kill them like in the Rodney King Riots in 1992. If that day comes soon, we will still have a chance to summon enough hatred and common sense to do what has to be done."

The whole tone of your post was as if these vicious, primitive Aztecs are representive of illegal aliens or even Mexicans in general, and that the only good ones will be dead ones. It just seemed a little over the top to me. We don't disagree about illegal immigration, but sometimes the rhetoric can be a bit much. Remember, this board is read by a lot of people outside of SOS and I wouldn't want those kinds of posts to considered representative of the thinking of our membership in general.
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I had to get in on this one.

Who outside of SOS is going to see this?
If its a trolling reconquista or a supporter or maybe a "news source" looking for ammo to use against us?

Well the sad facts are it doesn't matter what is said here , even if its a lilly clean forum like alipac your still going to be a xenophobic racist in their eyes.

Thats part of whats hurting our movement , we feel we have to play the game by the rules , the opposition threw out the rule book and you all know that.

How many years now have we been playing the game by the rules? Where is our movement at the moment? Sure we can claim the high moral ground for sticking to the rules , but in the long run............What has it achieved?

I'm not asking anyone to change anything but just to take a look at what our final goal is and maybe to look at a new strategy. This one doesn't appear to be working very well.

Keep in mind that more amnesty bills are coming , and will keep coming, There has to be an ending or sooner or later our "holding actions" will fail.
Unless we start to play offense instead of defense , we are pounding sand.

Just to go on the record I believe Don has a 100% correct take on the problem , he recognizes it and is not sugar coating it.
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Old 12-21-2009, 08:18 AM
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I had to get in on this one.

Who outside of SOS is going to see this?
If its a trolling reconquista or a supporter or maybe a "news source" looking for ammo to use against us?

Well the sad facts are it doesn't matter what is said here , even if its a lilly clean forum like alipac your still going to be a xenophobic racist in their eyes.

Thats part of whats hurting our movement , we feel we have to play the game by the rules , the opposition threw out the rule book and you all know that.

How many years now have we been playing the game by the rules? Where is our movement at the moment? Sure we can claim the high moral ground for sticking to the rules , but in the long run............What has it achieved?

I'm not asking anyone to change anything but just to take a look at what our final goal is and maybe to look at a new strategy. This one doesn't appear to be working very well.

JMO
We follow our rules because we believe in them; Because it's the way we want to live and govern ourselves. If we stick to our rules and way of life, the consistency of that will be a beacon that attracts good people and provides evidence that we are not a bunch of rag tag warlords or banana republic in which people fear the political climate can turn against them in a heartbeat due to some current event. During times of turmoil, we stick to our values and rules. When we are criticized by others, we stick to our principles. When all hell breaks loose, we stick to the principles while protecting our ranks and welcoming those who will have seen that we, above all else, will adhere to our policies regardless of the temptation of anarchy.
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Old 12-21-2009, 08:32 AM
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Keep in mind that this country was founded on anarchy
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Old 12-21-2009, 09:09 AM
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Keep in mind that this country was founded on anarchy
How so? I rather believe it was founded by a declaration of independence from another government. That declaration was accompanied by a constitution that was fashioned around the rule of law, and amended with a bill of rights, not anarachy. I think you may be confusing rebellion or revolt with anarchy. The colonists were not predisposed to no rules. They rallied against unfair rules, and then further associated themselves with rules of their own making.
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Still all things considered

They revolted against the rightful govt of that time which was the King of England.

They were traitors , revolutionaries and anarchists against the rightful govt.

I said rightful, not just govt.

Is our situation much different than the people of this country faced under
English rule?

What choices for remedy did the colonists have?

What choices do we have?
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:01 PM
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I want to go a bit further here

We supposedly have the right to petition our govt for redress.

Are they listening to us? doesn't appear they are

We are suppose to be equal , color , gender , race etc.

I could right a book about how we are not even close to equal , every part of our society is skewed in favor of minorities

One citizen , one vote?
Really ? and just how many illegal aliens are voting ? how else could some of these latino radicals win election ? people like Gil Navorrow or villiareconquiast ?

We are in the process of Balkinizing this nation , never mind the process , we are there

Obama was elected by white guilt and blacks that will vote black for no other reason.

We have come to a dead end in our country, the special interests are running the show , people now are only going to vote for those that promise them the most free goodies or are of the same race.

qualifed or not ,

This country is wacked out and most of you know it is , trouble is , there is no easy fix
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Waco, you're being way too harsh and ridiculously judgemental regarding that situation. The people responsible for any attack were the people who did it. We shouldn't blame the victim. It's very easy to judge a situtation without having been in it. But of course I will concede- Yes, we were late and that did compound the situation. The parking situation was atrocious once we arrived, we ended up parking behind the opposition lines as the majority in our vehicle did not want to park in the parking lot closer to the actual event (thus closer to local people actually seeing what car we would have emerged from). No one was "following" Chelene in this instance.



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I was there in Maywood that August day in 2006 and helped coordinate the day's events, the only one responsible for getting Kele beaten up was Kele herself for being stupid enough to follow Chelene and one other female into a crowd of hundreds of frothing at the mouth, rabid Open border types. No one was supposed to go unescorted by police into the area they ventured into plus the fact that they arrived 90 minutes late compounded the situation. Anyone with half a brain would not have gone into that hostile crowd, but she/they did. After it happened there was much whining on Kele's part and no one was supposed to say anything about it due the increasing PC type attitude of SOS once Chelene gained influence. What Kele and the other two women did was incredibly stupid but they didnt want to admit that painful fact.

I myself had my car severely vandalized that day and it was miraculous that Cat Patrol, Black Cats in Ontario and I even made it out of Maywood.... and we didn't venture unprotected into enemy territory. Be that as it may, I spent no time whining about it.

Let's get real people. Time for all of us to take responsibility for our own actions and not be the perpetual victims nor should we be enablers of the "victim mentality", which is what Kele had. She screwed up, believed Chelene, got her ass kicked and then cried foul (to an extreme). Too bad so sad. We are all adults here so let's act like it. Actions have consequences as Kele found out that day when she acted the fool.
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I was there in Maywood that August day in 2006 and helped coordinate the day's events, the only one responsible for getting Kele beaten up was Kele herself for being stupid enough to follow Chelene and one other female into a crowd of hundreds of frothing at the mouth, rabid Open border types. No one was supposed to go unescorted by police into the area they ventured into plus the fact that they arrived 90 minutes late compounded the situation. Anyone with half a brain would not have gone into that hostile crowd, but she/they did. After it happened there was much whining on Kele's part and no one was supposed to say anything about it due the increasing PC type attitude of SOS once Chelene gained influence. What Kele and the other two women did was incredibly stupid but they didnt want to admit that painful fact.

I myself had my car severely vandalized that day and it was miraculous that Cat Patrol, Black Cats in Ontario and I even made it out of Maywood.... and we didn't venture unprotected into enemy territory. Be that as it may, I spent no time whining about it.

Let's get real people. Time for all of us to take responsibility for our own actions and not be the perpetual victims nor should we be enablers of the "victim mentality", which is what Kele had. She screwed up, believed Chelene, got her ass kicked and then cried foul (to an extreme). Too bad so sad. We are all adults here so let's act like it. Actions have consequences as Kele found out that day when she acted the fool.
I had planned not to post in here at all....truthfully, I'm not sure I recognize the mindset of many of the folks I used to know.

But this is just too much.

I am responsible for getting my ass kicked by a bunch of rabid dogs?

You have no idea what happened that day. You were not there, behind the other side when the police DIRECTED us to park where we were unable to get to our side of the protest without walking through the goons. When they DIRECTED us to THEIR sidewalk. Nor were you there when I was forced off of that sidewalk and into the crowd. We were not 90 minutes late. We were 15 minutes late. We spent 20 minutes trying to figure out what to do. In the end, the police told us to walk down the sidewalk. I didn't even walk in with Chelene. I didn't follow anyone anywhere. I was walking with the guy that was filming. We both figured I'd be safe with him. I carried no flag. I wore no patriotic clothing. All I had to differentiate myself from everyone else was my blond hair and my prior association with SOS.

I was intentionally separated from the camera man by the "Death to the Minutemen" fat guy with the Mexican flag. By the time he could get around Raul, the crowd had already pushed me into the center and were whaling away at me.

You think I have a victim mentality? I'll tell you what I have. Three blown discs in my lower back from that little joy walk. Three of them--and constant pain. According to both of the doctors I've seen, I need surgery....but I'm just a full-time student with a kid to support. I have no insurance and since I'm not an illegal alien, my government certainly won't pay to fix it. I think that trumps your damaged car. I'm sure you had it fixed.

It's easy enough to talk crap about someone when you really have no clue what happened and that person is not around to defend themselves, isn't it? Nice to know that there are still folks in this organization, no matter how reorganized it is, who have no problem crucifying their own.

Makes me wonder what I thought was so special about this organization that I wanted to come back.

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I had planned not to post in here at all....truthfully, I'm not sure I recognize the mindset of many of the folks I used to know.

But this is just too much.

I am responsible for getting my ass kicked by a bunch of rabid dogs?

You have no idea what happened that day. You were not there, behind the other side when the police DIRECTED us to park where we were unable to get to our side of the protest without walking through the goons. When they DIRECTED us to THEIR sidewalk. Nor were you there when I was forced off of that sidewalk and into the crowd. We were not 90 minutes late. We were 15 minutes late. We spent 20 minutes trying to figure out what to do. In the end, the police told us to walk down the sidewalk. I didn't even walk in with Chelene. I didn't follow anyone anywhere. I was walking with the guy that was filming. We both figured I'd be safe with him. I carried no flag. I wore no patriotic clothing. All I had to differentiate myself from everyone else was my blond hair and my prior association with SOS.

I was intentionally separated from the camera man by the "Death to the Minutemen" fat guy with the Mexican flag. By the time he could get around Raul, the crowd had already pushed me into the center and were whaling away at me.

You think I have a victim mentality? I'll tell you what I have. Three blown discs in my lower back from that little joy walk. Three of them--and constant pain. According to both of the doctors I've seen, I need surgery....but I'm just a full-time student with a kid to support. I have no insurance and since I'm not an illegal alien, my government certainly won't pay to fix it.

It's easy enough to talk crap about someone when you really have no clue what happened and that person is not around to defend themselves, isn't it? Nice to know that there are still folks in this organization, no matter how reorganized it is, who have no problem crucifying their own.

Makes me wonder what I thought was so special about this organization that I wanted to come back.
First of all, welcome back

Secondly, what you read there was one person's opinion, and If you scan through the thread, pretty much a lone one that was not generally accepted by the rest of us.
Of course you belong here, and there's nothing to wonder about. As you have demonstrated, you stand up for yourself, and you have stood up for our agenda.
Whooo yooo kiddin'?
You are special, just like the lot of us
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First of all, welcome back

Secondly, what you read there was one person's opinion, and If you scan through the thread, pretty much a lone one that was not generally accepted by the rest of us.
Of course you belong here, and there's nothing to wonder about. As you have demonstrated, you stand up for yourself, and you have stood up for our agenda.
Whooo yooo kiddin'?
You are special, just like the lot of us
Thank you AG. I'm just not sure that I understand what's going on here anymore.
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