Nazis to Pinal County (National Socialists vs International Socialists)

[Borderwatch]

Nazis to Pinal County (National Socialists vs International Socialists)

http://azstarnet.com/news/local/bord...f26a88ade.html

A Phoenix man described as a neo-Nazi is calling for people to bring "plenty of firearms and ammo" to a border watch operation in Pinal County that he is promoting as the "Minuteman Project on steroids."

The man behind the rally call is Jason "J.T." Ready, who is identified as a "nativist" an "outright neo-Nazi" by the Southern Poverty Law Center, a civil rights organization that monitors hate groups.

In an e-mail titled "Border action alert," Ready calls for a "show of force and solidarity of concerned patriots ... to stand the line near Interstate 8 to show the world that the line in the sand has been drawn."

The operation is set to take place today in the Vekol Valley, located about halfway between Casa Grande and Gila Bend. It's the same area that Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu has said is now controlled by drug smugglers, and where a deputy from his department got into a gunfight with suspected smugglers on April 30.

Ready specifically invites militias, motorcycle clubs, National Guard, constitutional groups and the National Socialist Movement. The NSM is one of the largest neo-Nazi hate groups in the country with 61 chapters in 35 states, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Reached by phone, Ready said he's a member of the group but said it's not a neo-Nazi hate group. Asked to describe it, he said it's a national socialism group. He said the Southern Poverty Law Center is among a group of organizations that is out to destroy America.

Ready said he and volunteers will shut down the major drug smuggling corridor for 24 hours by putting snipers on observation points and patrolling in vehicles and on foot. He declined to estimate how many people he expected. He and others were already out in the valley Friday doing work, he said.

"We've got assault rifles, we've got military equipment," Ready said. "This is a serious situation we have coming into Phoenix."

The proposed operation and the people Ready's recruiting makes it a potentially dangerous situation, said Heidi Beirich, director of research at the Southern Poverty Law Center.

"This is like the worst case scenario," Beirich said. "Whatever you want to say about the Minutemen, there was some responsibility about the fact that it could be a dangerous situation. J.T.'s like the opposite: 'Come on down every crazy person on the planet and bring your weapons and we'll take 'em on.' "

Sheriff Babeu said in an e-mailed statement that he appreciates the support and the offer to take up arms and patrol, but discourages the operation.

"This would not be helpful and would only cause a strain on already strained resources, and their safety needs to be a priority," Babeu said. "It will only complicate our concerns to have untrained and armed citizens, who are not from Pinal County, patrolling our desert areas. We currently have operations that are ongoing and advised to not take law enforcement matter into their own hands."

The Pinal County Sheriff's Office doesn't have enough resources to dedicate a team of deputies to monitor the operation, but the regional commander of the area is aware and has instructed his deputies to monitor the area, said sheriff's spokeswoman Lt. Tamatha Villar.

The Vekol Valley is about 85 miles north of the U.S.-Mexico border and about the same distance northwest of Tucson. At a June 11 news conference in Casa Grande about suspected drug smugglers who were shot in the valley, Babeu said drug cartels control the area.

In this e-mail call to action, Ready describes the situation that prompted the effort: "Armed narco-terrorists are bringing in loads of chemical warfare into our nation. These incursions should be treated no less serious than Al-Qaeda terrorists smuggling Sarin nerve agent into our population centers."

He asks for people to wear camouflage or earth-tone clothing and says bandannas, balaclavas or other identity-concealing items are allowed and encouraged. Military-related gear is a plus, he writes.

The e-mail says people will need to carry valid identification and emergency contact information, that there will be a firearms safety briefing and that rules of engagement will be covered for participants.

At the end of the e-mail, he writes, "This is the Minuteman Project on steroids!" In caps, it says, "The invasion stops here."

Ready's past is littered with conflict. He is an ex-Marine who was twice court-martialed and received a bad-conduct discharge, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. He was arrested in Florida in 1992 for aggravated assault with a weapon and damage to property, according to a 2006 Arizona Republic story.

In 2008, three Arizona Republican legislators called for Ready's removal from a party precinct committee in Mesa's legislative District 18 because of his ties to the National Socialist Movement. Ready has regularly pitched the idea of putting minefields along the U.S.-Mexico border as a security solution.

A photo that has been widely circulated on the Internet shows Ready with Arizona Sen. Russell Pearce, the Republican legislator from Mesa behind Arizona's new immigration enforcement law. But Pearce has distanced himself from Ready.

In a recent interview with the Arizona Republic, Pearce acknowledged his relationship with Ready but said he has severed his ties with him. And he said he couldn't do anything about extremist groups that use illegal immigration to make their own toxic political hay. "There is no room for hate in this debate, and there is no room for hate groups in this debate," Pearce said. "They do great damage to the cause and the rule of law."

Contact reporter Brady McCombs at 573-4213 or bmccombs@azstarnet.com.

[Twoller]

Originally Posted by Borderwatch

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A photo that has been widely circulated on the Internet shows Ready with Arizona Sen. Russell Pearce, the Republican legislator from Mesa behind Arizona's new immigration enforcement law. But Pearce has distanced himself from Ready.

In a recent interview with the Arizona Republic, Pearce acknowledged his relationship with Ready but said he has severed his ties with him. And he said he couldn't do anything about extremist groups that use illegal immigration to make their own toxic political hay. "There is no room for hate in this debate, and there is no room for hate groups in this debate," Pearce said. "They do great damage to the cause and the rule of law."

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There would be less opportunities for these flakes if there was more teeth to the rule of law regarding illegal immigration.

[usa today]

Interesting story

Didn't I just make this prediction in a thread a couple days ago?

Several things come to mind

Is this a false flag to paint us all as loonys ?

What exactly will law enforcement do ?

Exactly how many will show up for this ?

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Is there a plus side?
Well , it might scare the daylights out of some illegals

A good Marine sharpshooter can take off an earlobe at 300 yards ,

close calls could be a good thing ,
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Our govt isn't doing it , at this point I'm not going to argue with anyone making an effort. I don't have to agree with their thinking but I want the damn illegals stopped.

[wetibbe]

I have mixed emotions about this event and the organizers.

First the SPLC is a propaganda spin machine interested in pocketing donations. They even call FAIR Federation for American Immigration Reform Nazis.

Second I don't know anything about this watch group. Never heard of them. But I certainly am skeptical of the hatchet job in the article.

Third I understand Pinal county Sheriff Paul Babeu's concern. But I also understand how fed up the Arizonans are. Obama promises National Guard, nothing happens, the cartel is running amok, gunning down ranchers, shooting law enforcement officers hauling in 30 stand up border jumpers per pickup load.

The Sheriff said he can't control the area and the National Park Service and Department of the Interior closed parks and wilderness areas to Americans.

Frankly speaking, I am looking the other way on this. Personally tough talk and a few body bags may be the message that needs to be heard by the invaders.

I'm not losing any sleep over this one. Not even if Adolph Hitler and Count Dracula get involved.

[Jeanfromfillmore]

Obama has the Black Panthers, who are no different than the Nazis except for their skin color. So who do the citizens of the USA have?

The more this problem drags on, the clearer it gets that Obama and the open borders want civil unrest, so that we will accept their amnesty crap. Conspiracy theories seem to becoming less of a theory and are becoming more of a fact. Especially after Sen. Kyle's disclosure of the conversation with Obama where Obama stated he doesn't want the border secured until he can get amnesty for the illegals.

[usa today]

It may be close to time to rethink our position

Our touchy feely PC at any price doesn't seem to be getting the job done

The opposition clearly doesn't care about their position , its reconquista period

[Twoller]

This little parade is going to take place in Vekol Valley.

Exactly what kind of property are these folks going to wandering around on? Is it private? Is it public? You think this might have been reported somewhere in this story.

[wetibbe]

Originally Posted by Twoller

This little parade is going to take place in Vekol Valley.

Exactly what kind of property are these folks going to wandering around on? Is it private? Is it public? You think this might have been reported somewhere in this story.

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Basically I-8 runs East West. Usually the method is to post 2 vehicles per mile, 2 persons per vehicle. That's along the DOT right of way. Further South the property is probably private or BLM Federal Bureau of Land Management. It can be looked up on the Arizona BLM maps. The area can be seen on Map Quest. There is a relatively narrow strip of land along the interstate speaking in broad regional term. It apparently extends a few miles South . In and around the Towns of Gila Bend and Casa Grande there is private land and municipal property.

Some action will be on DOT right of way, some on a strip of land just South of Interstate Highway I-8 and some possibly could also occur close to the towns as there have been car chases on the highway and incidents of traffickers in the Towns. There could be possibly three or four scenarios. Cartel scouts/lookouts, ambushers, back packers walking North, mules returning South, pickups laden with stand up illegal aliens, highway chases and potentially sneak invaders in the Towns.

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Pima Couny is on the West and Pinal County is on the East. The action is around Gila Bend this time.

Regionally, to the border, practically all of the land is Military - Barry Goldwater bombing range, , Tohono O'odha indian reservation, Federal Cabeza Prieta National Wildlife refuge and Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument.

The Barry Goldwater bombing range is vast extending East and West for miles. The mules cross it regularly. Adjacent to the South and East the Indian reservation is, of course, under jurisdiction of the Indian tribe and tribal police. They are completely overrun. It not only extends to the border but goes across into Mexico. No border fence can be built there as it is out of Federal jurisdiction and it would split the tribe.

Cabeza Priets Wildlife refuge is adjacent to the South of Goldwater bombing range and extends to the border. *( The Department will not allow any motorized vehicles which seriously limits Border Patrol actions. To her credit Secretary Napolitano had severely criticized this limitation ).

Organ Pipe NM is adjacent and West of the Indian reservation and extends to the border.


The Vekol Valler region appears to be rugged, forbidding and desolate. However, the green patches East, to the right of the Google imagery, are irrigated farm fields of crops which should be private land.

[Twoller]

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... Adjacent to the South and East the Indian reservation is, of course, under jurisdiction of the Indian tribe and tribal police. They are completely overrun. It not only extends to the border but goes across into Mexico. No border fence can be built there as it is out of Federal jurisdiction and it would split the tribe.

Cabeza Priets Wildlife refuge is adjacent to the South of Goldwater bombing range and extends to the border. *( The Department will not allow any motorized vehicles which seriously limits Border Patrol actions. To her credit Secretary Napolitano had severely criticized this limitation ).

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Is the indian reservation really a problem for border patrol? It seems like making the reservation a better partner by funding it for border patrol operations might be a solution. Tribal police are not likely to have the resources to keep the illegals out, even where they might want to be doing something about it.

I wouldn't credit Napolitano for criticizing limiting motorized vehicles in this wildlife refuge. She may want to see more motor vehicles there because her supporters are illegals or sympathizers who need those vehicles to better traffic accross the border there. Always remember, illegal immigration requires traffic in both directions accross a nation's borders. And why should general limitations to motor vehicles necessarily restrict BP vehicles? The problem is not police in the area, the problem is in visitors.

Motor vehicle travel in environmentally sensitive areas can be better suited by educated drivers and appropriately equipped and managed vehicles. And certainly this is something that could be managed by official vehicles.

[usa today]

Last I heard some of the Indians are joining the lawsuit against the law