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Old 03-27-2011, 06:57 AM
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Default Recent War Vet Teaches Veterans To Farm

This is the first I've heard of it, and I plan to look in on it in the future, but initially this looks like a good thing to me. Americans doing their own farming
is a good sized nail in the illegal mexican import scam

http://www.sacbee.com/2011/03/27/350...ition-has.html

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Hart landed his internship through the Davis-based Farmer Veteran Coalition, a program gaining national attention for its work in recruiting fresh blood to a declining U.S. farming industry while training returning veterans, many of them injured or disabled, for employment.
Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2011/03/27/350...#ixzz1HoOxZgDF
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Old 03-27-2011, 10:45 AM
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That is one of the best, if not the best, news I have heard about our food.
People say those are jobs Americans will not do but this is one American who did do those jobs. To this day I do as much gardening as I am able to do.

I have not purchased green onions in about 2 years because they are ALL from Mexico and my seed have not been coming up when I plant them.

I check where almost all my food comes from. I recently discovered that Kellog's Raisn Bran is now "Product of Mexico. So are Nabisco graham crackers. Kraft is on the Mexico product. People should check where the food is coming from. You know they say "You are what you eat.
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Old 03-27-2011, 01:08 PM
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Living in an agricultural area this hits close to home. Remo, your point is well taken. That is why their "If we didn't have illegals a head of lettuce would cost $5" is such crap. The cost of agriculture is mostly the marketing, the labor is subsidized by the taxpayer. I'm learning more and more about exactly how much the taxpayer is paying for by attending our city council meetings twice a month. Just last week I found out that the taxpayer has paid for over 250 late model GMC vans that the illegals can "check out" at no cost except mileage. That's right, no cost for gas, maintenance, license, insurance or anything else. The taxpayer pays for everything else, including roadside assistance!!! All that is required is for one person to have a drivers license, and it doesn't state that is has to be a California Drivers License.

These illegals get Section 8 housing, free medical, food stamps, free childcare, free legal services and just about anything they need.

When you add it all up they get about $25-$30 an hour. I took the time to consider what they receive and divided it by 40 hr worked.
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Old 03-28-2011, 04:06 AM
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Just last week I found out that the taxpayer has paid for over 250 late model GMC vans that the illegals can "check out" at no cost except mileage. That's right, no cost for gas, maintenance, license, insurance or anything else.
Is this a great country or what!

Seriously, who or what part of the government is doing this.

If I were an illegal alien and desired to make a road trip with eight of my closest illegal buddies, just who would I approach?

What sort of paperwork would I have to fill out?
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Seriously, who or what part of the government is doing this.
That is something I would like to know also.
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Old 03-28-2011, 01:29 PM
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Here’s what the flier for the vans states.

Cal-Vans provides save, reliable and low-cost transportation to workers on all regions of California.
Economical
15-passenger vans are loaded free to the driver. Passengers pay a low rate based on the number of miles traveled per week. The gas, maintenance and $10million in liability insurance are included in the price.

Simple
You are not required to sign a contract, If you have no work, you can simply return the van. When work resumes, you can use the van again. And no credit check is required, either.

Comfortable
All vans are late-model GMC Savanas equipped with air conditioning and CD players. Vans for agricultural workers are also equipped with water receivers, trailer hitch, fire extinguishers and first aid kits.

Safe
Cal-Vans gives you the means to arrive to work on time in a safe, reliable vehicle. 24/7 roadside assistance is included.

California Vanpool Authority
Formerly KART/AITS
50 Julian St
Ventura, Ca
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Old 03-28-2011, 07:48 PM
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Collection of web searches for AG Industries and 50 Julian Way, not really specific:



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50 Julian street in Ventura:

1) Silvas Oil Company
50 Julian St
Ventura, CA 93001
Phone: (805) 643-6470

2) AG Industries Transportation Services
50 Julian St
Ventura, CA 93001
805-641-1600

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Silvas Locations

Please use your CFN card at the following Silvas Fueling locations:
Dinuba, CA - 501 South M Street
Fresno, CA - 4149 South Maple Ave
Hanford, CA - 550 East 5th Street
Kingsburg, CA - 1250 Laurel Street
Oxnard, CA - 655 South Ventura Road
Oxnard, CA - 1230 East 5th Street
Santa Maria, CA - 700 West Church Street
Ventura, CA - 50 Julian Street
Ventura, CA - 2191 North Ventura Ave
Ventura, CA - 6417 Ventura Blvd

A G Industries Transportation
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Trucking Transportation Brokers

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Ventura

* Address:
50 Julian St
Ventura, CA 93001
* Phone:
805-641-1600 (Phone)


STANDARD LISTINGS: (Yellow Pages) TRANSPORTATION BROKERS & CONSULTANTS IN/NEAR SANTA BARBARA
Cal Vans doesn't come up...
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Old 03-28-2011, 08:01 PM
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Kart/aits

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http://www.aitsvp.com/contact.php



http://www.aitsvp.com/employer.php
sponsored by the kings county area public transit agency, the aits program offers your employees safe, reliable transportation to and from work. All at a lower cost than they’re probably paying now. All to keep our roadways safe and your business productive. For program specifics, please click on any of the questions below:

What is the cost of aits to employers?
Participation in the program is free to employers.

What is the cost to drivers and riders?
A one-time start-up grant provided money to set-up the aits program and purchase the 15-passenger vans. The money to sustain and expand the program comes from the riders themselves. Workers pay a modest fee to ride an aits vanpool -- far less than the $5 per day most workers must pay to ride in an unsafe, unreliable vehicle. The payments cover the agency’s cost of maintaining and insuring the vans, as well as the cost of replacing them when they wear out. The drivers receive no pay -- they’re simply farm workers who volunteer to operate a vanpool. And enjoy the benefits of a safe, affordable, reliable commute to work.

How does aits ensure safety behind the wheel?
Vanpool drivers must have a class c license, pass a required physical and provide a dmv printout showing proof of a clean driving record. The vans themselves are also equipped for safety. Each one is outfitted with a global positioning system, so the driver can locate help should an emergency arise. The vans also carry first aid kits, fire extinguishers and roadside safety items. And for maximum peace of mind, every van in the program is fully covered by a $2 million insurance policy.

What are other employers saying about aits?
They say it’s making a big difference in their bottom line. Click here for a video testimonial!

How do i get more information about aits?
If you’d like to bring the benefits of aits to your operation, contact the kings county area public transit agency at 866-655
sponsored by the kings county area public transit agency, the aits program offers your employees safe, reliable transportation to and from work. All at a lower cost than they’re probably paying now. All to keep our roadways safe and your business productive. For program specifics, please click on any of the questions below:

What is the cost of aits to employers?
Participation in the program is free to employers.

What is the cost to drivers and riders?
A one-time start-up grant provided money to set-up the aits program and purchase the 15-passenger vans. The money to sustain and expand the program comes from the riders themselves. Workers pay a modest fee to ride an aits vanpool -- far less than the $5 per day most workers must pay to ride in an unsafe, unreliable vehicle. The payments cover the agency’s cost of maintaining and insuring the vans, as well as the cost of replacing them when they wear out. The drivers receive no pay -- they’re simply farm workers who volunteer to operate a vanpool. And enjoy the benefits of a safe, affordable, reliable commute to work.

How does aits ensure safety behind the wheel?
Vanpool drivers must have a class c license, pass a required physical and provide a dmv printout showing proof of a clean driving record. The vans themselves are also equipped for safety. Each one is outfitted with a global positioning system, so the driver can locate help should an emergency arise. The vans also carry first aid kits, fire extinguishers and roadside safety items. And for maximum peace of mind, every van in the program is fully covered by a $2 million insurance policy.

What are other employers saying about aits?
They say it’s making a big difference in their bottom line. Click here for a video testimonial!

How do i get more information about aits?
If you’d like to bring the benefits of aits to your operation, contact the kings county area public transit agency at 866-655-5444.
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Old 03-28-2011, 08:11 PM
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this was a good find Jean, and thanks to Ilbegone for inspiring some research

As usual, another government giveaway to farmworkers and farmers. This program is all over the state already. Grants from government get it started, and then who knows? maybe it'll be like foodstamps and become a near entitlement
It's here in Sac too


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Discussion: The Agricultural Worker Transportation Program (AWTP) is a state initiative to provide
safe and affordable transportation for agricultural workers. SACOG has received over $2 million
dollars in AWTP grant funds to provide transportation services. Grant funds sunset on June 30, 2011.
The AWTP Vanpool Business Plan final report is now complete and will be available on the SACOG
website by February 1, 2010. PRM Consulting has completed a study that leverages almost 1,600
survey responses within the four-county RTPA planning area. The key finding of the report is that the
development of a self-sustaining vanpool program is feasible over a 15-18 month period.
Over the past several months SACOG staff and its Agricultural Worker Technical Advisory
Committee have evaluated several alternatives for implementing an agricultural worker transportation
program in the SACOG region. Staff has met with the Executive Director of KCAPTA, the operator
of the model agricultural worker transportation program, and visited the program offices in Kings
County to evaluate the operation and to determine if a partnership with KCAPTA would be the most
effective and efficient way of implementing the program in the SACOG region. Staff and SACOG
counsel from Miller, Owen & Trost, have met several times to discuss, evaluate and develop
recommendations as to the best way to implement this new program.
The recommended implementation of this program would be a two step process. The first step is for
SACOG to enter into a MOU with KCAPTA to begin immediate implementation of the program in the
SACOG region. The second step is for SACOG join the newly forming California Vanpool Authority.
This JPA is being formed as the successor agency to KCAPTA to expand the program beyond the
current Central Valley members and to provide a long term governance structure for what is becoming
a very successful statewide program.

KCAPTA and its successor JPA are uniquely qualified to operate the AWTP program, as demonstrated
through its record of success. As a public transportation agency, KCAPTA and the new JPA do not
face the considerable legal barriers that would occur in a “farm labor” contract with a private
contractor. The proposed interim MOU with KCAPTA will allow for the timely initiation of resource
allocations, service planning and implementation until the statewide JPA is fully formed. Legal
counsel at Miller, Owen & Trost is in concurrence with the proposed governance path.
SACOG would fully finance the start up of this region’s program with the existing AWTP grant funds
and would be under no obligation for continued funding after June 30, 2011. To implement the
program, SACOG would transfer $1.758 million of AWTP grant funds to KCAPTA to implement and
operate the program and retain about $415,000 to cover the staff work already expended on evaluating
the recommended implementation approach and to cover on-going staff work associated with the
implementation, marketing and operation of the program during the remainder of the grant funded
program through June 30, 2011. The proposed business model has proven to produce an economically
self-sustaining transportation service for agricultural workers. Other AWTP grantees have already
transferred grant funds to KCAPTA and vanpool services have been expanded into other regions with
very positive results.
Approved by:
Mike McKeever
Executive Director
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Attachment
Key Staff: Matt Carpenter, Director of Transportation Services, (916) 340-6276
Jim Brown, Principal Program Expert, (916) 340-6221
Robert McCrary, Senior Planner, (916) 340-6228

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What are other employers saying about aits?
They say it’s making a big difference in their bottom line. Click here for a video testimonial!
No sh!t Sherlock. Employers who exploit farmworkers also exploit the taxpayer for subsidized workers, and now they don't have to even have to worry about getting them to the job. It's free.
Screw farmers; shut the water off

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Old 03-28-2011, 08:17 PM
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This says that the Van Pool pays for itself. Truth or propaganda? Grants mentioned above

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SACOG has received over $2 million dollars in AWTP grant funds to provide transportation services. Grant funds sunset on June 30, 2011.
are not an indication that a project is self sufficient.

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Preparations to establish the new California Vanpool Authority entered their final phase this month as public entities began the process of updating the cooperative agreement that would allow the KingsCounty Association of Governments to join the authority.

"Everybody except (KCAG) has got it signed off, so we're going to have all the agencies sign the joint powers agreement in January or February," said Ron Hughes, executive director of the Kings County Area Public Transit Agency (KCAPTA). "We'll record the document with the Secretary of State, thereby creating the entity. We'll then spend the next four months doing all the structural building that takes place in the organization."

Hughes, whose agency runs the booming vanpool operation in addition to the local bus and dial-a-ride systems, is expected to take the helm of the new authority once created. Twenty members of his staff will transfer their duties to the new agency.

The new authority is scheduled to begin running the show on July 1, 2011.
Envisioned to help farmworkers and correctional officers, the vanpool program had humble beginnings.

Originally rolled out in 2002 with a few vans transporting correctional officers from Visalia to Corcoran, the program has since flourished. Today it boasts 30 employees and a fleet of more than 400 vans, including 170 vans designated for farmworkers, generally traveling through the five-county area from Madera to Kern. Vans operate in Ventura as well as Monterey...



...The program is riding on its momentum. That program is large enough today that it is achieving economies of scale, allowing the cost for the riders to go down each year.

The vanpool program operation is an unsubsidized, self-sufficient operation.

It generates about $600,000 in revenue each year, and that money is used to expand the program even more and thus make it cheaper for all riders, Hughes said.
More http://www.valleyair.org/recent_news...2012-15-10.pdf
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