California Hosting over 2.5 million illegals

[Ayatollahgondola]

According to PEW, We have a little under 25% of the nation's total of illegals here in California

http://pewhispanic.org/unauthorized-immigration/

[ilbegone]

The numbers.

2,550,000 illegal aliens

6.9% of the population


9.3 percent of the labor force

1,750,000 illegally employed.

It calculates out that almost 69% of illegals are working. What might the breakdown be for families and others whoaren't officially employed, such as street vendors and others?

Would this take into account that "vibrant" downtown section of LA where vendors of bacon wrapped hot dogs and sellers of women's "push up" pants have been boycotting the LA sales tax long before Villaraigosa and La city hall boycotted Arizona?

It would be nice to have an explanation as to how they arrived at their figures, particularly when people who hide their status are deemed Uncountable?

[wetibbe]

I would like to know how they count the illegals.

BP says they only apprehend 1 in 3 to 10.

Estimates of illegals in the USA range from 12 million to 30 million !

*( 30 million would be 600,000 per each of 50 states { 30,000,000/50 = 600,000 }. I don't think so.

Why is it that they are so good about counting and so bad about enforcing existing laws ?

[DerailAmnesty.com]

Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola

According to PEW, We have a little under 25% of the nation's total of illegals here in California.

The ugly reality of the situation is that California is a taxpayer funded orphanage for much of the unwanted, excess population of Latin America. We are inevitably nose-diving in the direction of bankruptcy or whatever is the equivalent at the state level.

Is illegal immigration good for America or even a net-gain? Take a look at the corner of the country that has the largest illegal alien population, and all sorts of policies and programs that are inviting to the undocumented, and therein you will find the truth.

[Twoller]

Originally Posted by DerailAmnesty.com

The ugly reality of the situation is that California is a taxpayer funded orphanage for much of the unwanted, excess population of Latin America. We are inevitably nose-diving in the direction of bankruptcy or whatever is the equivalent at the state level.

Is illegal immigration good for America or even a net-gain? Take a look at the corner of the country that has the largest illegal alien population, and all sorts of policies and programs that are inviting to the undocumented, and therein you will find the truth.

Let's not fixate too much on Latin America. California and the rest of the country are a taxpayer funded orphanage for the rest of the world too, including a good part of Asia. Smaller countries make smaller contributions, but it is all the same problem to be confronted with the same passion.

It is a poor strategy to identify the problem as Latin American when the political machinery propping it up is so huge. Best to keep identifying the problem as general and not specific to any one territory, people or country. Keep the rest of the global social dumping in the US on the gravy train of Latin American immigration politics. They don't contribute to it, but benefit from it and burdening the La Razaists with the immigration issues of Asians, for example, serves to burden and disorient them.

Keep the source of the problem anonymous and nobody will be confused or disoriented as to who the worse contributors are. It is obvious every time you step out onto the streets.

[Don]

Originally Posted by Twoller

Let's not fixate too much on Latin America. California and the rest of the country are a taxpayer funded orphanage for the rest of the world too, including a good part of Asia. Smaller countries make smaller contributions, but it is all the same problem to be confronted with the same passion.

It is a poor strategy to identify the problem as Latin American when the political machinery propping it up is so huge. .

Maywood, Bell, South Gate and other bankrupted cities are almost 100% latino. I know that Arcadia, Montebello, Monterrey Park and other communities are infested with Asians, but they're not going bankrupt. It's the Latino occupied communities that are the most corrupt.

[ilbegone]

It is true that illegals come from everywhere, not just Latin America. Latin America in general and Mexico in particular send the most.

What makes a region or local government financially viable?

Fontana and Colton are bastions of illegal residency. As I understand it, the city of Fontana has a decent reserve, whereas the city of Colton is right next to bankruptcy.

However, Fontana has all that recycling business, whereas Colton seems to only have a railway switching yard which long since has ceased to be Colton's economic base.

San Bernardino? San Bernardino - without getting into percentage of illegal aliens to citizens within the group termed "Hispanic" or "Latino" - has a large "Latino" population and is next to bankruptcy. It has an airport, but since it ceased being Norton Air Force base some years ago, its economic base has been knocked out.

I view Redlands as a mostly white middle class bedroom community. It has a nearly dead Downtown for its economic foundation, and Redlands seems to be running in the far red.

Since the economy crashed and building permits and inflated property tax values on newly built homes is largely a thing of the past, formerly prosperous cities are now becoming insolvent.

How about the city of Los Angeles?

It ran business off in favor of imported poverty. The only thing which is keeping Los Angeles from going under is what the city skims from DWP, and I believe if rates aren't raised on DWP property, DWP will eventually have a meltdown of its own. Furthermore, DWP's largest customer is the LAUSD which feeds on taxpayer funds. With the shortfall of tax revenue and the budget crisis, how does all this all portend for the end game?

The only thing keeping the San Fernando Valley afloat is the money brought in with the porn industry.

Detroit is another example of diminished industry, as are all those communities which formerly were steelworker towns.

Barstow only limps along since the railway cutbacks decades ago due to the continued presence of Fort Irwin and the Marine Corp Logistics Base.

If a town doesn't have a viable gig which brings in outside money and provides decent paying jobs rather than building houses or sucking up social services funding for its economic base it's going to be in trouble sooner or later.

An economy based on welfare benefits and unemployment checks along with hamburger flipping and leaf raking isn't going to make it.