McCain Takes The Primary Again

[Kathy63]

It would be pretty hard to get rid of the two major party system without putting some mechanisim in place for preventing people from voting to one of the two major parties.

I think ending the closed party system will be on the ballot in November so we'll see how many people forgot why we put in a closed party system in the first place.

Since most people vote for one of the two major parties, and you can't stop that from happening, an open primary assures that the weakest and most ill qualified win the primary for that party.

[Twoller]

Originally Posted by Kathy63

It would be pretty hard to get rid of the two major party system without putting some mechanisim in place for preventing people from voting to one of the two major parties.

"... from voting to one of the two major parties."? What do you mean by that? All you have to do is get rid of listing party affiliation for purposes of voter registration, eliminating government records of party affiliation. It would then be the responsibility of the political parties to keep track of their own members and whether or not they belonged to more than one political party. And furthermore, if they did, that would strictly be the concern of the political party. Any attempts on the part of law or government to interfere with that would be a violation of the rights of a political party as a private organization. And that's what political parties are now, private organizations.

Originally Posted by Kathy63

I think ending the closed party system will be on the ballot in November so we'll see how many people forgot why we put in a closed party system in the first place.

What is the "closed party system" and what is supposed to be on the November ballot regarding this? As far as I know, the "open primaries" initiative has already passed last June.

Originally Posted by Kathy63

Since most people vote for one of the two major parties, and you can't stop that from happening, an open primary assures that the weakest and most ill qualified win the primary for that party.

You have completely missed the above discussion. It doesn't matter whether people vote for one of the two major parties. The problem is not the two major parties, it is the monopoly that the two parties, the "two party system" has on our government. The "two party system" is confusing itself with government and so is the public. Open primaries is an absurdity that further entrenches the "two party system".

[ilbegone]

But yes, there is a connection between the political primary system and the "two party system". They are two heads of the same monster that has taken over government throughout the US.

In the late 60's the Democrat and Republican parties were described as "a two headed goat which feeds from one trough" and a "third" party was formed in response to that belief - La Raza Unida.

That racial party crashed and burned, but its goals are now being realized through the Democrats.

Look at the California legislature since Willie Brown finally and deservedly got axed, how have "term limits" fixed our mess?

Not at all. Actually made them much, much worse.

What's the solution? Right now I can only think of the guillotine. But, what did that really do for France, beside kill lots of French citizens and, through Napoleon taking advantage of the turmoil under the guise of "revolution", plunge Europe into devastating war for many decades?

Will creating a third party help us, or hopeless divide our votes?