This Is IT! Going to Leave California ASAP!

[DerailAmnesty.com]

Originally Posted by Twoller

So what is Fr. Moonbeam going to do in office and what can we do to make his life a living hell when he is trying to do it?

What is he going to do?

Definitely: 1) Go along with whatever the unions want; 2) Rubber stamp the insane budgets the state legislature will produce ... that the Republicans can no longer trim b/c now only a simple maj. is required rather than 2/3; 3) Hand out financial aid to illegal alien college students

Maybe: A) Grant drivers licenses to illegal aliens; B) Spearhead drives to hand over all sorts of taxpayer funded subsidies for "green energy" projects that private industry won't touch b/c of lack of profitability.

[Twoller]

Well, the illegal alien student thing might be easier than it looks.

How exactly does one become an illegal alien college student? If your illegal parents burped you up here, you are an anchor baby and you don't have to act like you are illegal at all. So it isn't anchor babies who are looking forward to college tuition for illegal immigrants.

It sounds like illegal immigrants are actually carting their nits accross the borders with them in some cases. Is this what is happening? Typically, we don't imagine that illegals haul families with them, the image is of people coming alone after paying off organized crime. Or they get pregnant and them come here to burp up anchor babies.

So instead of breaking out the outrage when they starting asking for college tuition, we might be able to confront them a little further up the production line.

There is also the other issue of how an illegal qualifies for college tuition. They must have sufficient educational background to get it. Where are they getting that? And why can't we boot them out of whatever educational system they are using to prepare for college?

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by Twoller

So what is Fr. Moonbeam going to do in office and what can we do to make his life a living hell when he is trying to do it?

We can fight. Just like we always have. There's no reason to quit, because there's no freedom anywhere unless you fight for it. That's the way it's always been everywhere.
We'll go on the offensive again real soon. We'll let the election hangover pass, and then start building up our forces again. California has some of the best climate and geography. There may be those of us who think they can survive and flourish in less hospitable areas, but I often see them return after a few years or less. If you end up being one of those who feel you can find a better life by leaving, I wish you the best, but it's not for me. I've been all over the country, and save for the climate in Florida and Hawaii, California is my choice. Hawaii is too expensive with limited opportunities, and Florida is too crowded and full of foreigners too

[Don]

Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola

We can fight. Just like we always have. There's no reason to quit, because there's no freedom anywhere unless you fight for it. That's the way it's always been everywhere.
We'll go on the offensive again real soon. We'll let the election hangover pass, and then start building up our forces again. California has some of the best climate and geography. There may be those of us who think they can survive and flourish in less hospitable areas, but I often see them return after a few years or less. If you end up being one of those who feel you can find a better life by leaving, I wish you the best, but it's not for me. I've been all over the country, and save for the climate in Florida and Hawaii, California is my choice. Hawaii is too expensive with limited opportunities, and Florida is too crowded and full of foreigners too

Well I know many who have left California but none who ever came back. The grass may not be greener in other states, but the cost of living is usually much lower. Nevertheless, I admire your fighting spirit.

I am actually bolstered by the elections, even as I think California is probably doomed. I believe that California will not change until it really crashes and burns. The state will be forced to default and the question will be whether or not the Fed Gov will provide a "bail out." I believe there will be overwhelming opposition to any proposal to "bail out" California, much like the hostility to the proposed New York City bailout under President Gerald Ford so many years ago. There is tremendous hatred of California in other parts of the country, some of which is a bi-product of the growing resistance to illegal immigration. Just look at Arizona! Arizonans are fighting for their country and I don't think they'll volunteer to pay more taxes to bail out a state like California that basically surrendered and ran up the white flag.

I don't know about actual secession, but I do see an increasing Balkanization of the country. The Health Care fiasco and other social programs will become increasingly irrelevant as the dollar collapses and massive French Revolution style civil unrest occurs. Some people are predicting hyperinflation, like in the post-WW1 Weimar Republic.

I guess one issue will be who gets to control the keys to the nuclear weapons? Kind of like the movie Crimson Tide with Gene Hackman and Denzel Washington where a US missile sub is dispatched to launch on mythical, disintegrating Russia where one faction gained control of part of its nuclear arsenal and is threatening to attack the USA.

Will Russia dispatch a nuclear sub to launch on us if some faction seizes part of our nuclear arsenal and threatens "world peace"? Kind of like Crimson Tide in reverse. Anything is possible. This election reveals significant fissures in the country that cannot be healed by feel-good rhetoric and slogans.

Obama is going to India with a fleet of jets and 34 warships at a cost of $200 million per day. Our country is disintegrating, people are massively unemployed and we're on the brink of economic collapse, and our meglomanical leader is going off on another vacation to live like royalty in the land of maharajas. This lunatic is totally disconnected from reality. He is like the emperor Nero fiddling while Rome burned.

[REWHBLCAIN]

Don't fret, the Government will bale you guys out. I mean the rest of us will.

[DerailAmnesty.com]

Originally Posted by REWHBLCAIN

Don't fret, the Government will bale you guys out. I mean the rest of us will.

I sincerely hope you won't, because financial disaster and dealing with the consequences (Californians dealing with it, not the rest of the nation's taxpaying citizens) is what will ultimately save this beautiful state.

When lots of businesses and April 15 taxpayers exit, stage East, from the Golden State, is when the takers will head elsewhere, as well. The mass exodus of the illegal alien and anchor baby populations, from my neck of the woods, will occur when the benefits (given by the states that can afford them) and jobs are elsewhere.

[LAPhil]

This last election just confirmed that most people in California have become too stupid to live. It's too bad the state doesn't just fall off the continent and sink into the ocean like a lot of people said was going to happen about 40 years ago. (Oh that's right, I live here too. For that matter, so do a lot of you sensible people. Forget the whole thing).

[maggieb60]

It will soon be broker than ever, Many business will leave , unemployment will rise greatly, They aren't the smartest cookies in the box

[Kathy63]

If I could I'd get out. It's more impossible now than it was even a few months ago but anyone with any wisdom and wherewithall should get out now.

It isn't only who was elected. Certainly Moonbeam is a tragedy, Gavin Newsome a worse tragedy and Kamala Harris (if she finally gets it) a catastrophe. It's the failure to repeal AB32 that will well and surely do this state in.

[rs232c]

The real loss was the Senate Majority Leader winning the race, how I can't understand.

Cuomo was elected because his father was a well respected politician.


I expect that since the lines are drawn there will be entertaining grandstanding on both sides but little headway. The only hope are the Democrats who won on a platform that distanced themselves from Obama to vote with the Republicans.