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Old 04-04-2011, 10:50 AM
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Cursive is not taught anymore it is said, because keyboarding IS. People are moving away from hand writing or even printing because they are using various type of keyboards including on phones.

The problem is that if a person cannot write, they cannot read either. The letters are merely more indecipherable figures. These illiterates move out into the world and will not be able to decipher a note written by the boss. They will require everything to be by text. Just as American children can no longer do simple arithmetic, they will not be able to write a simple sentence.

And they really think they will be employable.
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Old 04-06-2011, 02:00 PM
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Bill to Include Gay Rights Movement Info in California Textbooks Clears Hurdle
The California Legislature could soon pass a bill that would require school textbooks and teachers to incorporate information on lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) Americans into their curriculum.
The Fair, Accurate, Inclusive and Respectful Education Act, or SB48, which mimics a bill previously vetoed by then-Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, made it one step closer to becoming law Tuesday after being approved by the state’s Senate Judiciary Committee.
The bill, introduced by state Sen. Mark Leno, could have a nationwide impact if passed because California is such a big buyer of textbooks that publishers often incorporate the state’s standards into books distributed to other states.
Supporters say that’s a good thing because it will help prevent gay students from being harassed or bullied by their classmates.
But critics say SB48 is just an attempt to brainwash students into becoming pro-gay political activists and ensure that government, not parents, has the final word on teaching kids about moral values.
“Most textbooks don’t include any historical information about the LGBT movement, which has great significance to both California and U.S. history,” Leno said in a statement. “Our collective silence on this issue perpetuates negative stereotypes of LGBT people and leads to increased bullying of young people.”
Leno told FoxNews.com that California school districts that have included the historical contributions of LGBT people and the LGBT movement in their curriculum have seen reduced rates of bullying and violence among students.
He said the bill aspires to achieve the same results statewide by adding LGBT to the existing list of underrepresented cultural and ethnic groups, which are covered by current law related to inclusion in textbooks and other instructional materials in schools.
“Furthermore, SB 48 will reduce bullying by ensuring that discriminatory bias and negative stereotypes based on sexual orientation are prohibited in school activities, instruction and classroom materials,” Carolyn Laub, executive director of Gay-Straight Alliance Network, which helped draft the bill, said in a statement.
Critics object to the bill on several accounts, saying it undermines parental authority, promotes gender confusion and experimentation, inappropriately classifies LGBT as a cultural ethnic group, and aims to brainwash children into adopting the LGBT community’s political agenda.
“This is teaching children from kindergarten on up that the homosexual, bisexual, transsexual lifestyle is something to admire and consider for themselves,” Randy Thomasson, president of SaveCalifornia.com, a group advocating against the bill, told FoxNews.com.
Thomasson said teachers should teach about homosexuals’ historical accomplishments but should not be forced to mention their sexual orientation.
“Teach them about the good behavior, the noble things that people have done, but you don’t have to go into what they do sexually… True history focuses on the accomplishments of people; it doesn’t talk about what they did in the bedroom.”
Thomasson also complained that the bill does not allow for teachers to discuss the opposition to the LGBT movement or warn against “the negative consequences, that male homosexuality is the largest transmitter of HIV and sexually transmitted diseases.”
“So this isn’t even about history, this is about, ‘Hey, join the movement now. We need more children to become soldiers in the fight against religious freedom, parental rights, marriage for a man and a woman, the boy scouts, you name it.’”
Jim Carroll, President of Equality California, which also helped draft the bill, denied that it aims to recruit students into the LGBT movement.
“And I don’t believe that by teaching about the black panthers for instance, that any school teacher could be accused of recruiting for that radical organization,” Carroll told FoxNews.com.
Carroll admitted that teachers would not be allowed to say things like “some believe homosexuality is an unhealthy lifestyle, the same way that you couldn’t talk about the civil rights movement but then say something discriminatory about African Americans.”
But he said that people’s sexual orientation would be used only as a way of identifying them.
“It would be difficult to teach about the women’s movement without mentioning that Susan B. Anthony was a woman, it would be difficult to teach about the black civil rights movement without talking about Martin Luther King Jr. being black, it would be impossible to talk about the LGBT movement without saying Harvey Milk was gay or Phyllis Lyon and Del Martin were lesbians,” Carroll said. “… We’re not asking people to talk about what they did in the bedroom, but their sexuality is relevant in terms of why you would discuss them in an educational environment.”
Leno added that the State Department would work with local school districts and the public to determine what changes should be made “and then, only at the next printing of the textbook, will this change, along with probably many others, be incorporated into the textbook, so no additional cost to the state.”
Opposing groups like SaveCalifornia.com and Concerned Parents United have launched letter-writing campaigns, asking critics to garner more opposition from their neighbors, religious leaders, local PTAs and lawmakers in hopes of persuading the governor and other lawmakers to oppose the bill.
Leno said the SB48 “will get to the floor of the Senate by late May; we hope that it will make its way to the assembly for similar review and to the governor’s desk by late summer.”

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/04/06...#ixzz1ImLRCoqE
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Old 04-06-2011, 03:18 PM
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The Fair, Accurate, Inclusive and Respectful Education Act

Ha!...The FAIRiE act.....sorry, but it does sound funny that way

I watched a bit of this on the tape. It's another stunning hypocrisy by the liberal politburo. They say it's inclusive, but they don't include an opposing argument.
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Old 04-06-2011, 03:48 PM
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By the way,

I weighed in on another bill yesterday, although not in SOS's behalf. It was a bill that would require an employer to allow an employee to present themselves in whatever sexual identity they chose. So a man could dress as a woman, and lead all the other employees and the emplyers customers or patients to believe he was a woman. For me, as a previous, and hopeful future employer, I'd have serious problems allowing someone to misrepresent themselves to my customers, In fact, I'd place a sign out front warning my customers that due to state law, employees of this establishment might be misrepresenting their actual gender. Not something you'd want to put on your door, but the failure to do so could result in some customers feeling violated should they engage with a falsely representing person, and disclose personal information that might not otherwise have been disclosed to that person. Or, that female employee became uncomfortable after having been in the restroom with a man that was dressing and presenting themselves as a woman. A sense of violation might again be reasonably felt, and then I'm in the position of not having protected that employee. There are numerous problems with this bill.
But it made it out of committee again

The tape is here, and the bill comes about 1:27 on the tape
My testimony comes about 1:36:50

http://www.calchannel.com/channel/viewvideo/2263

Also of note, at the end of the support portion of the witnesses, the second to the last person to witness in support of the bill was previously my next door neighbor. He's moved out since then, but he made sure to point me out to his betheren there. I'm not sure if it was to validate that I existed, since he may have relayed my legendary status as an activist with SOS to them. He was also a one-worlder. Or, he may have thought I might change my views if people knew where I lived
He was at 1:34:18
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Old 07-07-2011, 06:57 PM
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In some schools they aren't even teaching cursive to grade school children anymore, because school in Mexico don't often teach it, so it becomes a burden to teach it to older students who arrived from there. If not all the students know it, they can't teach using it.
Many parts of History are now eliminated and social studies is rare.
It was just announced on ABC News that 13 states now do NOT require learning cursive in their schools. Every day we are losing the battle to teach our own citizens what was taught to us in the past. We are becoming less literate by the day.
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What about typing skills? Is there any increase in teaching that? Notice how many people on line don't use capitalization or punctuation in their typing, even where they get spelling right.

Being able to put pencil to paper is still a basic literacy skill. If you can't do that, you are not literate.
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What about typing skills? Is there any increase in teaching that? Notice how many people on line don't use capitalization or punctuation in their typing, even where they get spelling right.

Being able to put pencil to paper is still a basic literacy skill. If you can't do that, you are not literate.
Most of what you're pointing out is a result of texting, and yes it has had a great negative impact on writing skills. But the basic things that are not being taught in our grade schools is increasing. We really need to address WHAT IS BEING TAUGHT.
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Most of what you're pointing out is a result of texting, and yes it has had a great negative impact on writing skills. But the basic things that are not being taught in our grade schools is increasing. We really need to address WHAT IS BEING TAUGHT.
I agree completely.

The technological revolution brought to us by the desktop computer has the potential to change education as we know it. There is absolutely no reason why public education should be restricted to publicly housed educational systems. Students should be able to survey and approach the sum total of their educational needs and requirements on an individual basis. We could completely remove the public education system as a tool of socialization. Students who are able to study and achieve beyond the rest should be able to meet their requirements outside of the classroom.

It's not just the primary grades that has this potential. College education also has the potential to exist outside the lecture halls and the administration by PhDs.
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Old 07-08-2011, 02:27 PM
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I agree completely.

The technological revolution brought to us by the desktop computer has the potential to change education as we know it. There is absolutely no reason why public education should be restricted to publicly housed educational systems. Students should be able to survey and approach the sum total of their educational needs and requirements on an individual basis. We could completely remove the public education system as a tool of socialization. Students who are able to study and achieve beyond the rest should be able to meet their requirements outside of the classroom.

It's not just the primary grades that has this potential. College education also has the potential to exist outside the lecture halls and the administration by PhDs.
Going beyond a basic education can not happen if the "basics" are not taught. That is what we are dealing with today. It is not just that the socialists have taken over our educational system, it is that our young are not even learning the basics of reading, writing or even simple math. That is the truth and how bad things have become. And I'm not just suggesting a simple hand full, it's a huge percentages that are coming out of our high schools with out even the bare bones basics. This is what should be taught in our primary schools, but it's not. Teachers are getting credential on "how to teach" not "what to teach". This is what the public isn't understanding, that it's what these kinds aren't being taught, but we have teachers who brag about their teaching "skills". Homeschoolers are doing better than public school students, yet their teachers aren't bragging about their "teaching skills" because those homeschoolers are more concerned about what is being taught.
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Going beyond a basic education can not happen if the "basics" are not taught. That is what we are dealing with today. It is not just that the socialists have taken over our educational system, it is that our young are not even learning the basics of reading, writing or even simple math. That is the truth and how bad things have become. And I'm not just suggesting a simple hand full, it's a huge percentages that are coming out of our high schools with out even the bare bones basics. This is what should be taught in our primary schools, but it's not. Teachers are getting credential on "how to teach" not "what to teach". This is what the public isn't understanding, that it's what these kinds aren't being taught, but we have teachers who brag about their teaching "skills". Homeschoolers are doing better than public school students, yet their teachers aren't bragging about their "teaching skills" because those homeschoolers are more concerned about what is being taught.
I'm not talking about going beyond basic education. I am talking about taking the content of basic education directly to the student, superceding both the teacher and the public schools. Think of how we are communicating with each other now. Why shouldn't something as simple as basic education be communicated with the same ease? There is only so much you need to know at any given point in the educational system and only so much you need to know before you graduate. If students could have this summarey laid out to them and reinforced over and over again using modern communications, the public educational system could wind up obsolete.

Your average high school student sees more complexity in a video game than what is required to grasp what is necessary for graduation. All that is necessary is to give them the right information.
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