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Old 04-22-2011, 11:09 PM
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Washington state,...yes, no surprise there. The fishing fleet...again, no surprise there. Working off shore is somewhat different. Your ship can be registered in many countries, and admiralty law plays a big part in labor aboard.
But mainland Alaska...not many mecksicans yet. I don't think they like the cold, nor do they stand up to cabin fever well. Mexicans are too social to be couped up alone for long.
Part of the story had to do with maybe just such cabin fever and necessary sociability.

While in Alaska, the Mexican I worked with in the CV and an illegal buddy had the pressing compulsion to visit a whorehouse. After they left, he expressed buyers' remorse due to the fact that he had squandered $600.00. The other illegal told him not to feel so bad about $600.00, he himself had been suckered for something like $10,000.00

Wow. That man must have really needed some "quality time".
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Old 04-22-2011, 11:22 PM
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Part of the story had to do with maybe just such cabin fever and necessary sociability.

While in Alaska, the Mexican I worked with in the CV and an illegal buddy had the pressing compulsion to visit a whorehouse. After they left, he expressed buyers' remorse due to the fact that he had squandered $600.00. The other illegal told him not to feel so bad about $600.00, he himself had been suckered for something like $10,000.00

Wow. That man must have really needed some "quality time".
In other words, he got rolled while he was drunk and lost every cent he was fool enough to enter a jezebels den with on his person.
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Old 04-22-2011, 11:37 PM
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In other words, he got rolled while he was drunk and lost every cent he was fool enough to enter a jezebels den with on his person.
Liquor probably had quite a bit to do with much of that days' adventure.

I don't know how widespread it is anymore, but quite a few illegals used to carry all their money in a shirt pocket when they moved around and didn't have all the financial service resources they do now. It might have been risky, but no sense burying money in a mayonnaise jar if you might not be back for a year if ever. And, I certainly wouldn't leave anything anywhere in a motel or flop house I really wanted to keep.
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The rats are working their way into law enforcement. We have to know exactly what this cockroach's activities in law enforcement were. What arrests did he make? What tickets did he issue?
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Old 04-23-2011, 08:16 AM
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This guy is probably being sacrificed as a propaganda ploy for the open borders/amnesty lobby. The're going to hold him up as an example of a good, cop, good family man, taxpayer, who nobody in town has a complaint with. And look at who will be coming to his defense....townfolk in a far away land that has no inkling of the real problems caused by illegals in places like LA, Santa Ana, San Diego, etc.
There's gonna be sobbing, anger, and screams for "reforms"

And who loses here? one person who doesn't have status...yet anyway. He's a sacrifice that the OBL will not miss, or even think about in a few months
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This guy is probably being sacrificed as a propaganda ploy for the open borders/amnesty lobby. The're going to hold him up as an example of a good, cop, good family man, taxpayer, who nobody in town has a complaint with. ...

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You are still assuming that the guy was a good cop. What was his record? What arrests did he make? What tickets did he issue?

He was a criminal who had no business in law enforcement. He was not even a citizen. We should have additional laws against illegals who find employment in government positions, especially law enforcement. The guy needs to go to jail for a long time. Think of all the cops who do wind up in jail, does this rat deserve any less?
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Old 04-23-2011, 02:25 PM
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You are still assuming that the guy was a good cop. What was his record? What arrests did he make? What tickets did he issue?

He was a criminal who had no business in law enforcement. He was not even a citizen. We should have additional laws against illegals who find employment in government positions, especially law enforcement. The guy needs to go to jail for a long time. Think of all the cops who do wind up in jail, does this rat deserve any less?
If my suspicions prove true, they will find him an otherwise good cop. If he was crooked in other ways too, he's not much good to them.
Does he deserve any less? god no..he's a fraud and a con at the root. To overlook that is to belittle everyone who took the proper path, including those who spent two or more years in college as opposed to those who bought something from an on-line diploma mill
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You are still assuming that the guy was a good cop. What was his record? What arrests did he make? What tickets did he issue?

He was a criminal who had no business in law enforcement. He was not even a citizen. We should have additional laws against illegals who find employment in government positions, especially law enforcement. The guy needs to go to jail for a long time. Think of all the cops who do wind up in jail, does this rat deserve any less?
You're still assuming the man is a total, unmitigated, gaping asshole.

There is no information except for:

His employer says he did an exemplary job as an officer, but lied to get hired.

He did commit identity fraud to get a job.

He used a false identity attempting to get a passport.

He has a family in Anchorage.

He's around 50 years old.

He is a Mexican citizen apparently by birth.

There is nothing else. No background history, nothing to indicate his age at entry.

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So, now you have another mission in addition to going to Texas to interrogate the Valdez family and to Florida to do the same with the white woman with Cuban ancestry and the adopted kid from Mexico - You now need to go to Anchorage and harass every watch commander who comes on duty about Rafael Mora Lopez about his employment record, the arrests he made, and the tickets he wrote.

And you can have fun stalking his family while you're at it.
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The rats are working their way into law enforcement. We have to know exactly what this cockroach's activities in law enforcement were. What arrests did he make? What tickets did he issue?
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This guy is probably being sacrificed as a propaganda ploy for the open borders/amnesty lobby. The're going to hold him up as an example of a good, cop, good family man, taxpayer, who nobody in town has a complaint with. And look at who will be coming to his defense....townfolk in a far away land that has no inkling of the real problems caused by illegals in places like LA, Santa Ana, San Diego, etc.
There's gonna be sobbing, anger, and screams for "reforms"

And who loses here? one person who doesn't have status...yet anyway. He's a sacrifice that the OBL will not miss, or even think about in a few months
This is all the information i have for this guy, everything else I found is the same:

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The passport fraud case is similar to one involving a Mexican national who took the identity of a dead cousin who was a U.S. citizen in order to become a Milwaukee police officer. Oscar Ayala-Cornejo was deported to Mexico in 2007. http://hosted2.ap.org/txdam/54828a5e...5ad01da1d82e10

Mora-Lopez had been employed as an Anchorage police officer since 2005 under the name Rafael Espinoza. He was arrested Thursday, April 21, 2011, after federal and state authorities searched his home and found documents confirming his true identity. http://federalnewsradio.com/index.ph...10&sid=2356419

"At this time, we have no reason to believe, from what we know so far, that this gentleman or this officer's good work for APD has in any way been compromised or questioned," Skidmore said.

U.S. Magistrate John D. Roberts set bond at $50,000, and ordered Mora-Lopez to home-confinement and electronic monitoring. His defense attorney told the magistrate that Mora-Lopez has a wife and child in Alaska and has close ties to Anchorage, where he has lived since the late 1980s.
"He's not going anywhere," Dayan said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_852852.html
There seems to be no word about his childhood, how old he was when he entered the US, the rest of his background. He might not even speak Spanish.

This again points to who the real culprits are - American politicians who refuse to fund and enforce immigration law, and American employers who create the draw for illegal aliens to come here. Yet twoller calls someone he has no knowledge of or even much information about a "cockroach", with the assumption that the man is a crooked cop, and Ayatolla is right that in this person the real problem of mass migration will be diverted to a question of "social justice" rather than enforcing immigration law.

This guy is shoved in our face by the media rather than the hundreds of cockroach members of congress and presidents who, since the 1986 amnesty, have been derelict in enforcing immigration law.

The double tragedy is that if he was brought to the US as a child, he really doesn't belong to either country. Give him citizenship, and it subverts the system beyond illegal entry and identity theft; deport him, it may be to a country which he doesn't know and in which he will be rejected because he is Americanized.
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