Perry booed on (illegal) immigration at GOP debate

[DerailAmnesty.com]

Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola

Sorry, but I've seen that they can. I've seen it up close and personal. Hell, there's a recent statement on my youtube page by one of those kids that argued with me at our recent billboard event that echoed that. Her parents entered illegally and got regularized, and are now applying for citizenship.

This kid is lying to you, Davi. I've been down this road legally before. You can speak to an immigration lawyer (which I'm not).

There are different sets of rules that apply to people who enter legally but are now unlawfully present (i.e. overstaying a visa), as opposed to people who swim or climb over at the border. People who unlawfully enter cannot gain legal residency w/o going home. Most kids from Mexico fall into the first category.

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by DerailAmnesty.com

This kid is lying to you, Davi. I've been down this road legally before. You can speak to an immigration lawyer (which I'm not).

There are different sets of rules that apply to people who enter legally but are now unlawfully present (i.e. overstaying a visa), as opposed to people who swim or climb over at the border. People who unlawfully enter cannot gain legal residency w/o going home. Most kids from Mexico fall into the first category.

Once again, I've witnessed it.

[DerailAmnesty.com]

Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola

Once again, I've witnessed it.

Whatever you've witnessed, there is some other piece to the puzzle or something you were either lied to about or not told. Speak to an immigration lawyer. He or she can relate what I've told you.

[Patriotic Army Mom]

Thanks SZ. Will remember what you've said. All I have to do is talk to my sister and know better.

[Rim05]

I stay too busy to post very much any more however, my opinion of Perry is very low. Anyone who attends, graduates from college should be able to speak proper English. I can't stand his, "Am onna" do this and that.

I have followed Perry since his last election and I don't think any one will want him for President. He is as arrogrant as can be and just loves all the big mouth blabber he gives.
The latest name I hear him called is Scary Perry.

I have watched all three debates so I am aware of what all of them are saying.

I don't know why we can not have at least one or two quality candidates.

[Kathy63]

Perry's inopportune comment is his Howard Dean Scream moment. He is trying to wiggle out of it and can't. He won't. It did him in.

He forgot for a moment that he is applying for a NATIONAL office not state, not Texas not where there are a lot of illegals and their voting relatives. Perry told parents in Nebraska, Kansas, Montana, and all of the other 49 states that if they are heartless if they object to paying a subsidy for the children of illegals to go to Texas A&M when their own children can't go without paying full price.

It might sell in Texas, but it's a loser nationally.

[ilbegone]

Originally Posted by Rim05

I don't know why we can not have at least one or two quality candidates.

What's on the ballot is what the parties present us.

We have two extremist parties which fight over control of the nation's future, and any candidate which strays too far from his party's position will usually be politically destroyed. The third parties are generally comprised of kooks or otherwise don't have a snowballs chance in hell of successfully fielding a candidate.

Politics is a nasty business, with all the character assassination and backstabbing that goes on and such. The guy who shakes your hand and convincingly assures you of his deep personal concern for you while kissing your baby as well as your ass usually isn't such a nice guy, he can't be and make it in politics.

I believe that to get more than lip service towards meaningfully enforcing immigration law means cleaning out the rat's nests which decide unwritten party policy - both of them.

It has to be negative experience for employers to hire illegals and public employees have to be punished for doling out public services to the illegally present, which mean that politicians have to feel some sort of pain for supporting employers and governmental hacks who do so. That means cleaning out the back room rats who give blessings and marching orders to politicians.

Everyone is focused on the national picture, but in reality it begins with city hall and the county seat, the most unobserved political units in America. Get the small ones, and the big ones fall with them. America was built on the township, and that's how America will be reclaimed by its citizens.

[Rim05]

I am remembering when Perry gathered about 30,000 followers and prayed for rain, he got more fires.