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Old 11-28-2009, 07:07 AM
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Let's ship 'em Mexicans instead. From what I'm told by cabinet level heads in the Obama administration, they're economic stimulators. They seem to think they are better than actual jobs

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Old 11-29-2009, 08:22 AM
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Let's ship 'em Mexicans instead. From what I'm told by cabinet level heads in the Obama administration, they're economic stimulators. They seem to think they are better than actual jobs

One of the concerns in my wife's home country is a shrinking population. Japanese are reproducing at an even slower rate than the Spaniards and folks in the Netherlands. In fact, the average married woman in Tokyo has 1.3 children (It is exceptionally rare that a female in that country has a child while unmarried).

I've often times told her that if the country would simply let us ship over all of the non-graduating students from a single senior class at any LAUSD high school of their choosing in the San Fernando Valley, the Japs could sit back and never worry about lack of babies again.
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Old 11-29-2009, 12:52 PM
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Believe me, countries like Thailand and Laos (and Mexico to a lesser degree) are the best argument in favor of the notion that imperialism has gotten a bad rap.
Please try and remember that the United States was born in a revolution against imperialism. Imperialism is the direct opposite of all of the values represented in everything good about the United States and its constitution. Imperialistic values are an infection on politics in the United States and is a good part of our immigration problems. A good example is our "territories" like Puerto Rico and other corruptions of US citizenship and borders.

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One of the concerns in my wife's home country is a shrinking population. Japanese are reproducing at an even slower rate than the Spaniards and folks in the Netherlands. In fact, the average married woman in Tokyo has 1.3 children (It is exceptionally rare that a female in that country has a child while unmarried).

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Why is it that whenever a people refuse to breed like rodents, they are disparaged as if they are falling down on the job and represent a country in decline? The fact is that the planet and the economies that are necessary for basic human welfare are breaking down because of human over population. Countries that have slowing native population growth represent those countries best prepared for the long term future. Russia is another country that has a slowing native population growth. Social stability is best achieved by little or no population growth, especially since population growth has exploded world wide. We need to value more families who have only one child or none, in some cases. Especially where the parents have two or more siblings. And we need to restrict immigration from countries with high population growth.
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Why is it that whenever a people refuse to breed like rodents, they are disparaged as if they are falling down on the job and represent a country in decline? The fact is that the planet and the economies that are necessary for basic human welfare are breaking down because of human over population. Countries that have slowing native population growth represent those countries best prepared for the long term future. Russia is another country that has a slowing native population growth. Social stability is best achieved by little or no population growth, especially since population growth has exploded world wide. We need to value more families who have only one child or none, in some cases. Especially where the parents have two or more siblings. And we need to restrict immigration from countries with high population growth.
There's only one problem with that, Twoller. What do you do about the illegals who reproduce at much greater rates than the rest of us and can potentially outpopulate us?
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Old 11-29-2009, 01:55 PM
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There's only one problem with that, Twoller. What do you do about the illegals who reproduce at much greater rates than the rest of us and can potentially outpopulate us?
You keep them in their own environment and they land up starving to death. That's what nature does to all creatures who over populate and why we don't want more of then migrating here. Just like the garages with 15 people living inside and houses with 25, they damage the sewers and neighborhoods, they eventually destroy the infrastructure. And in time the neighborhood can't support anyone and those there want to leave it.
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So that is why so many water mains are breaking.
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Old 11-29-2009, 06:04 PM
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So that is why so many water mains are breaking.
Rimo they overuse the infrastructure yet don't contribute enough to maintain it or replace it. Basically whole areas begin to crumble. With the economy as it is and not much relief in sight, we'll see this happening at an alarming rate in the next ten to twenty years.
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Please try and remember that the United States was born in a revolution against imperialism. Imperialism is the direct opposite of all of the values represented in everything good about the United States and its constitution. Imperialistic values are an infection on politics in the United States and is a good part of our immigration problems. A good example is our "territories" like Puerto Rico and other corruptions of US citizenship and borders.


I wholeheartedly disagree. There are problems, right now, that could be rectified by making certain countries or areas U.S. territories. There are simply some people/nations that will never conform to our standards and, so long as they continue their current practices, will burden the U.S.

Examples: The Palestinians, the Mexicans and the Afghanis.

Everyone, us and them, would have an improved standard of living if the the people populating those territories were controlled by the U.S.
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I'm sorry, but no matter how useless a people are to themselves or anyone else, being subject to an empire has never been a solution. If you can't understand that part of the promise of our United States as a beacon of hope to anyone, even ourselves, is as a confrontation against empires, then you are unfit to be United States citizen.

Any time our government becomes the open and willing executor of an empire, then that government is capable of treating us, US citizens, as the subjects of an empire. What kind of fool would turn over their system of government to an empire.

What happens to our borders when the US becomes an empire? Look at Great Britain and the commonwealth. It's immigration problems are the consequence of the collapse of Imperial England. That collapse saw its first tremors in our own American Revolution that saw the birth of our own country.

Look at India. It has been the unwilling subject of an Islamic empire and an English empire. Under Ghandi and others, they finally took back most of their own country. They are still coping with the refuse that these empires left behind, although England left the most gracefully. Look at what Vietnam had to go through. Both the French and Catholics in the US said that Vietnam was incapable of governing itself. If they had been left to govern themselves, Vietnam would never have gone communist. But to the Vietnamese, communism was perferable to imperialism.

They were right. Even communism is better than imperialism, especially the filthy and degenerate hand of imperialism that touched Vietnam.
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I can't believe this. For the first time ever I actually agree with Twoller!
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