Obama’s War in Libya is Illegal and Unconstitutional

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by ilbegone

... all Libya has is sand, Arabized northern Africans, a crazed lunatic in charge, and oil.

It's also a beachhead, and a domino

[ilbegone]

Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola

It's also a beachhead, and a domino

Sincere question, a beach head and domino to exactly what?

Don't we have enough of that in Iraq?

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by ilbegone

Sincere question, a beach head and domino to exactly what?

Don't we have enough of that in Iraq?

We're not in Iraq anymore. The puppet regime is set up there already. So now we need another place to stage the forces until the next big slice of cheese can be cut..Iran

[ilbegone]

Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola

We're not in Iraq anymore. The puppet regime is set up there already. So now we need another place to stage the forces until the next big slice of cheese can be cut..Iran

Go to Fort Irwin or Camp Wilson at Twenty Nine palms and convince those about to ship out that we don't have a presence in Iraq.

Besides, Iran is sandwiched between Iraq and Afghanistan. Libya is several nations by land and a couple of stretches of water and two sand filled countries full of hostile inhabitants away from Iran.

I'm not getting it.

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by ilbegone

Go to Fort Irwin or Camp Wilson at Twenty Nine palms and convince those about to ship out that we don't have a presence in Iraq.

Besides, Iran is sandwiched between Iraq and Afghanistan. Libya is several nations by land and a couple of stretches of water and two sand filled countries full of hostile inhabitants away from Iran.

I'm not getting it.

Iraq is like Korea. we have forces there, but no war to justify sending aircraft carriers to

Invading Iran from Iraq would likely leave our butts hanging out in a not-quite-trustworthy government there. With libya and a host of other nations still in the arab camp, what's to prevent a coalition of arabic dictators from attacking the US once it has shaken the Iranian serpent. No; I see strategic planning here. Pacify a few, invade a few; destabilize a few. No one to flank us then

[ilbegone]

Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola

Iraq is like Korea. we have forces there, but no war to justify sending aircraft carriers to

Invading Iran from Iraq would likely leave our butts hanging out in a not-quite-trustworthy government there. With libya and a host of other nations still in the arab camp, what's to prevent a coalition of arabic dictators from attacking the US once it has shaken the Iranian serpent. No; I see strategic planning here. Pacify a few, invade a few; destabilize a few. No one to flank us then

What's to stop them from getting together and attacking us now?

They hate each other, some have an interest in selling us overpriced oil while worming us into position to do their dirty work on our dime while pointing fingers at "aggressor Americans"

Their collective leadership consists of thuggish calculating assholes who can't field an effective army, but egg their citizens on against us just enough to take domestic attention off their corrupt dictatorships. And our government generally kisses their asses.

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by ilbegone

What's to stop them from getting together and attacking us now?.

Incentive. Give them a reason for holy war, and that will unite the lot of them

[Eagle1]

I do not see a need for our presence in the Middle east at all. If our government had done its job and fulfilled its obligations to the people that they represent our borders would be secure, we would have achieved energy independence, gasoline would probably go for less than $1.50 a gallon at most, and our economy would be sound.

This "affliction" that has our government sending our military all over the world wherever there is civil unrest or war will in time see its way here too as foreign armies land on our shores to "help us out".

Oh happy day. I can see that coming some day soon if we are unfortunate enough to be unable to get intelligent, reasonable men and women to replace the rabble that is now running an ruining this nation.

My guess is that we will have within twenty years time less than fifty states in the Union and a Federation or alternate coalition of states living under our founding documents .

As for the Arabs, the Muslim Brotherhood my be the binding force active in uniting all of the Middle East against the USA with a plan to give us the "payback" they feel we deserve for having killed so many of their brethren.

Like George Washington said, "Avoid foreign entanglements".

[Rim05]

From post #3 to the very end of this thread, is what I have been wanting to read since the Egypt conflict started.
There is some one/thing behind the unrest besides ' citizens wanting freedon'. Someone wants all the Mid East I believe. The plan seems to be well thought out. I was amazed that we turned on Mubark, he was our friend, why him?
What are we going to do when we have the same kind of 'uprising' in this country? I do think it is coming.

I want to thank everyone who has posted in this thread, most people I know do not want to talk politics so I am mostly left to my own thoughts.

I will say that I don't think we should have been involved in firing a single shot or missile into Libya. Those people did not have anything nor any training for the fight they started. I have heard them say "We need help" and " Where is Obama".
Only a fool will start a war they know they cannot win.