Who is the enemy?

[ilbegone]

Who is the enemy?

Illegals, while they shouldn't be here in the first place and most should be deported, are just ubiquitous sheep, tools used to various ends and agendas.

And results of their presence aren't exactly what most of the agenda's authors wanted and for some it's spinning out of control.

For some of it, you have to look at causal background. No one suddenly woke up on a fine day in May circa 1958 with the idea of "Hey, I'm going to pretend to be Mexican and flood the United States with Mexicans". When it came around about 1969 it wasn't a Mexican idea and the proponents, for the most part, didn't speak Spanish. Besides, in spite of all the propaganda brown racists throw out, Mexicans don't go for Chicano blather.

However, a lot of what race obsessed "Latino activists" like to carry on about and embellish as though pre-1960 white racism is a current event actually did go on decades ago. But what would "Mexican Americans" be without victimization theory? Americans who might hire Mexicans.

I believe the majority of the black equal rights movement was just that, a demand for equal rights. Martin Luther King asked his white jailers in Atlanta how much they were being paid. Upon hearing the answer of what a pittance their wages were, he said "You should be marching with us!" However, Johnson's well intended Great Society programs along with hippies moving into black neighborhoods with drugs and Martin Luther King's death largely killed the upward mobility of blacks. Now there are just a few self appointed blowhards like dual windbags Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton to cheapen Dr King's legacy by profiting from promotion of racial division.

However, during the same time period there were spontaneous brown movements which came up in Texas, Colorado, New Mexico and California which piggy backed on the black civil rights movement but was geared more towards brown supremacy rather than equal rights. Those movements eventually became the “Chicano movement” of the 70's. I believe the “Aztlan” concept came from Corky Gonzalez; the racially motivated take over of government, schools, and public services was the brain child of Jose Angel Gutierrez; and Reies Tijerina added his own bizarre element in his land grant crusade.

Second or third generation American Cesar Chavez didn't want to be a part of Gutierrez' petition to Mexican president Echevarria to enlist help in either creating an independent nation of Aztlan or extending Mexican borders north. Chavez also turned in illegals who were breaking his strikes to the Border Patrol, which did nothing. Chavez has a bad reputation among the lower class in Mexico who remember the times.

If anyone want to understand what's happening now with Government and schools, they should study those three above (Gutierrez, Gonzalez, and Tijerina - all Americans by birth) whom I consider to be the founders of brown American supremacist racism – which is now entering its third generation.

Not everyone ascribes to what the former Chicano movement has evolved into by any means, and I have heard first generation born in America of all ages who are not enamored with illegal aliens. Certainly not everyone of the so called “Hispanic” or “Latino” description is in favor of illegal aliens or brown racial agenda.

Besides, look at what's happening. With the influx of the least educated and least skilled Mexico has to offer, education of the young is not a priority among them. The largest disappointment to Mexican parents is the inevitable Americanization of their children - not educational failure. Those "Latinos" who do become educated are propagandized and tend to go into politics or education. Not having experience in the real world of either making a normal living or having business experience and ascribing to far left American (Not Mexican) racial politics “brown washed” with a pseudo Mexican veneer, they come up with all sorts of ideas and theories which doesn't work in the real world – something like the parasite killing its host by essentially killing business or driving it out of the state. It's not what the founders of “Aztlan” concept envisioned.

Having rambled on with the history:

The woman in this thread http://saveourstate.info/showthread....5491#post15491 is on the way to becoming an enemy
but she is not THE enemy. In a way, she has her back against the wall. Coming here at nine, she's had too much Americanization to belong to Mexico yet America doesn't want her either, which is exactly where our brown supremacist AMERICAN ENEMY wants her to be.

Cutting to the chase, brown American supremacists use illegal aliens for their children to be propagandized in school and crowd out white Americans while the concept of Aztlan is turning out to be a colossal failure.

The core Democrat party uses illegals as a future constituency they can't obtain among Americans by hooking them on social services while importing poverty, ignorance and the lowest tax contributors in America while bankrupting America by heavily taxing and regulating everyone else.

The core Republican party desire a non voting slave class by importing illegals, however the numerous children of those illegals - Americans by virtue of the 14th amendment, will tend to vote Democrat.

American business uses illegals because they are cheaper by the dozen. They get shoddy results, but few in the business community look at the bottom line anymore. If it's the lowest up front cost, they are willing to pay the highest out the back door. And, they prefer not to hire the American born - too Americanized.

Most brown educators have the racial agenda, white educators are clueless as to what it's about.

The Catholic church uses illegals to fill pews and collection plates while gathering sufficient bodies to meddle in politics.

Before the mayhem of the cartel war the Mexican government used illegal immigration as a social pressure vent and to distract from real governmental reform, as well as using America to fund the largest welfare program on earth in the form of remittances. It's also a sardonic poke in the American eye as well as the notion of conquering by squatting - courtesy of American Jose Angel Gutierrez handing the idea to Mexican president Echevarria in the early 70's combined with the long nursed grievance over the Mexican American war. On the other hand, they have lost Mexican labor, people come back with American ideas, and illegal Guatemalans do work in Mexico which Mexicans won't do for the pittance.

With the exception of the Mexican government, the enemies are all American citizens – politicians, educators, businessmen, and leaders of organized religion. Illegals are merely the obvious symptom of the disease and unwitting tools for the various agendas.

[Ronbass]

Doing Nothing is Not a Solution
It's time for American Patriots to go back to the border.
Ron Bass
www.UnitedPatriotsOfAmerica.com

[ilbegone]

Originally Posted by Ronbass

Doing Nothing is Not a Solution
It's time for American Patriots to go back to the border.
Ron Bass
www.UnitedPatriotsOfAmerica.com

Going to the border is fine, it brings a visibility to the cause.

However, if the politicians who have created the mess aren't rode out of Washington and the various state capitols on a rail and employers who hire illegals aren't substantially punished, not a single thing will change. So long as there is a draw There is no fence which can be built or enough bodies on the ground to keep them out.


The enemy has an American face and speaks English.

[Jeanfromfillmore]

Half of the illegals that are here came in on a visa and didn't leave when their visa expired. The border is one big entrance and the visa is another. We need to address ALL the issues that allow the illegals to be here and all the issues that allow them to stay. Our house is full and we're at the tipping point.

We need to stop the media and our politicians from trying to use our "emotions" to make decisions and start using common sense and actual honest data.