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04-01-2011, 05:01 AM
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OPEN BORDERS AND MASS AMNESTY Ich Bin Ein Arizonan! "I entirely reject the concept, however, of "anchor babies." If parents are found to be here illegally, then the whole family, children as well, should be sent back to the parents' country of origin." 
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04-01-2011, 05:20 AM
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Not me.
Sorry Guys, but I didn't read this thread and I didn't post. Don't really know what has been said to any extent.
However, I think it is correct that postings everywhere are down as well as Patriot Group activity. Now I do have a problem and I don't exactly understand it myself. I'm definitely an old time Republican and a conservative who has supported the party since childhood. And voted for every Republican President, since, and including, Dwight D. Eisenhower. Although basically I agree with the right wing media I can no longer listen to: Rush Limbaugh Sean Hannity Laura Ingraham Glenn Beck Chris Wallace And Monica Crowley is now on the short list. Along with Dick Morris. Geraldo Rivera is on thin ice. But I do listen to Bill O'Reilly and Charles Krauthammer. And sometimes Karl Rove. My guess as to the falling interest of posters and Patriots may be: Burnout after so many years. And the changing tide in public opinion and gains in going after illegal aliens. Last edited by wetibbe; 04-01-2011 at 05:25 AM.
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04-01-2011, 05:29 AM
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OPEN BORDERS AND MASS AMNESTY Ich Bin Ein Arizonan! "I entirely reject the concept, however, of "anchor babies." If parents are found to be here illegally, then the whole family, children as well, should be sent back to the parents' country of origin."
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04-01-2011, 06:03 AM
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It's a pretty simple equation. The SOS board drew attention, from supporters and opposition, b/c we did things. We had stuff to report b/c we were out there - pretty regularly. That tailed off w/ the former SOS as Nightingale lost over half the active membership and couldn't put bodies at events, and so did interest in the board. Same thing here. We had participation when we had things to report. Now we really don't. Cole is right. We've become a cut and paste news relay outfit. And there's no point getting defensive and telling me about things in Sac. I know you do things, Davi, but that's not where the bulk of our membership is. As long as we do little or nothing, the interest we generate will be little or nothing. Despite contrary representations made 3 months ago, not a thing has changed since I started that thread at the beginning of the year ( http://www.saveourstate.info/showthread.php?t=3268 ). We have an organizing committee that can't be bothered to organize. It's probably time to close it down b/c it's just outright sad and there's no indication that SOP is going to change. One man, one opinion. --------- Also, before I forget - Don, please stop wasting your time posting here. It takes away time you could be earning taxable dollars that Phil and I could grab with our "greasy paws" to help finance the State of Israel.
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04-01-2011, 06:18 AM
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I will admit that things get pretty boring here at times, however I do get good information at times. I can't hear, see or read everything, so most of the things I read here are good to read.
As far as getting people to do anything, it is a problem. I don't know the reason but it was so much more interesting when people would post about what ever is/was going on. My one thought is, people are too quick to criticize others. Some people are too quick to be offended. I actually know people who cannot stand for someone to disagree with them. Why? I don't expect everyone to agree with me but, it would be nice if a person disagrees, just be polite. I would really miss the forum if it closed.
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04-01-2011, 06:39 AM
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If you want the place closed down, you'll be in the company of the open borders lobby, the la raza crowd, the faction of the republican party that lobbies for amnesty, the democrat heirarchy that supports mexico, the mexicans who support illegal immigration, the religious factions , and the SPLC who never met a border security or immigration law enforcement support group they didn't hate. I'll go past that and issue you this: If you want the place closed down, you can fight me, sue me, or overthrow me. Short of that, it's not going to happen. Your continuing effort at this has me starting to visualize you as a more educated version of Schwilk
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04-01-2011, 07:36 AM
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04-01-2011, 08:45 AM
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Reply and comment.
I think your last paragraph has some merit. BTW, since when is Geraldo Rivera right wing? __________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Heraldo is a staunch cheer leader for Latinos/Hispanics and sympathetic to the "La Raza" . That I don't like. Can't really muster up much in the way of defending his other attitudes and opinions but the Guy really does come out with some objective reporting that I really like a lot and agree with. He is thorough and often very incisive. When he and Bill O'reilly have one one one conversations I enjoy them. Apart from that he is a Fox news contributor and as such I'm not too sure that it gives him any leeway with the conservative crowd. At least he isn't on CNN or Chris Matthews or MSNBC with Keith Olberman. I think that maybe my problem with listening to the conservatives may have something to do with my diminishing tolerance for blather and tired rhetoric. I like action. Not useless jawboning, whining and complaining endlessly over and over day after day, week after week, month after month.. As to SOS's current status and future, I personally believe that it should continue with renewed vigor and vitality. Now some words: I have attended the street events and meetings of other Patriot Groups in my area. We are in daily contact. But I have always declined their many invitations to join or merge. They know that I support them. I stay in the shadow and under the radar. I shun publicity. But I also vigorously support law enforcement. SOS may consider some clandestine, spook, efforts to detect employers of illegal aliens and report them to ICE. It's remarkably easy. I do it all the time. But I'm completely fluent in Spanish. I just walk up and start a friendly, innocuous conversation. I ask for ID and they pull out their Matricula Consulares. I also join with local labor union business agents. I ride around with them to construction sites where they absolutely know who is illegal and a bandit contractor. You would be amazed at how much they know. Things change. Things evolve. SOS shouldn't stay in the same old rut. They should rethink, innovate and improvise. There are not that many of us around. We need to stick together. Last edited by wetibbe; 04-01-2011 at 08:57 AM.
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04-01-2011, 08:59 AM
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Please don't subscribe to the gloom and doom lobby 
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