"Michelle my Belle!"

[willworkforfood]

E-mail our new "President" here:


This is Michelle's email link, and these are the 4 digit codes needed to email her!

http://bachmann.house.gov/Contact/ZipCode.htm

55125-1018

55125-1002

Michelle Bachmann on Illegal Immigration

The United States is a nation founded by immigrants and prides itself on the principles of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Obtaining the “American Dream” is an inherent part of our nation’s spirit and we should encourage those who enter our country legally to achieve it. However, we are also a nation founded on the rule of law and we must ensure U.S. immigration laws are respected and enforced to preserve our national security; protect federal, state, and local budgets; and curb unfair strain on our country’s job markets.

The last time our immigration laws were overhauled was in 1986, when Congress granted amnesty to almost three million illegal immigrants in the U.S. and promised increased border security in the near future. Twenty years later, the number of illegal immigrants in our country has quadrupled, with no end in sight. Rather than repeating the mistakes of our past, I believe Congress must work to secure our nation’s borders and enforce the immigration laws already in place. Once this is achieved, improvements to the current system can be considered.

Those who approach our immigration system legally and work through the established process should be welcomed. However, any proposal for reform must not reward those who choose to break our laws by entering the country illegally.

[LAPhil]

Originally Posted by willworkforfood

E-mail our new "President" here:


This is Michelle's email link, and these are the 4 digit codes needed to email her!

http://bachmann.house.gov/Contact/ZipCode.htm

55125-1018

55125-1002

Michelle Bachmann on Illegal Immigration

The United States is a nation founded by immigrants and prides itself on the principles of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Obtaining the “American Dream” is an inherent part of our nation’s spirit and we should encourage those who enter our country legally to achieve it. However, we are also a nation founded on the rule of law and we must ensure U.S. immigration laws are respected and enforced to preserve our national security; protect federal, state, and local budgets; and curb unfair strain on our country’s job markets.

The last time our immigration laws were overhauled was in 1986, when Congress granted amnesty to almost three million illegal immigrants in the U.S. and promised increased border security in the near future. Twenty years later, the number of illegal immigrants in our country has quadrupled, with no end in sight. Rather than repeating the mistakes of our past, I believe Congress must work to secure our nation’s borders and enforce the immigration laws already in place. Once this is achieved, improvements to the current system can be considered.

Those who approach our immigration system legally and work through the established process should be welcomed. However, any proposal for reform must not reward those who choose to break our laws by entering the country illegally.

Quadrupled? That would only be 12 million. Why do politicians and the media always low-ball the real number?

[Jeanfromfillmore]

Originally Posted by LAPhil

Quadrupled? That would only be 12 million. Why do politicians and the media always low-ball the real number?

Phil most of those graduating from high school these days can't do the math, literally can't do the math. So politicians can pull out any numbers they want and most wouldn't know the difference.

[LAPhil]

Originally Posted by Jeanfromfillmore

Phil most of those graduating from high school these days can't do the math, literally can't do the math. So politicians can pull out any numbers they want and most wouldn't know the difference.

Either that or the politicians think that if people knew what the real number was they would be demanding action NOW.

[Rim05]

Quote:
Originally Posted by LAPhil
Quadrupled? That would only be 12 million. Why do politicians and the media always low-ball the real number?

Phil most of those graduating from high school these days can't do the math, literally can't do the math. So politicians can pull out any numbers they want and most wouldn't know the difference.

There could be 50 million. Are you still believing that 11 million song and dance?

[LAPhil]

Originally Posted by Rim05

There could be 50 million. Are you still believing that 11 million song and dance?

50 million would be a bit high. That would mean one in six people in this country is an illegal. This is the number I trust: http://www.immigrationcounters.com/

[Ayatollahgondola]

The reason the government keeps spouting that number is that it is probably close to accurate given that many of the illegals from years prior have been given legal status, ie amnesty. Maybe not citizenship, but legal status to work. I've been harping about this since my early days at SOS, and I know people don't want to hear it, but it's true. They are, and have been legalizing a big portion of the illegal entrants every year, but we have new ones that take their place. Now if you added the amnestied ones into the numbers since 2003 or 2004, you'd probably have 20 to 25 million illegals. I think RIM's estiate would be accurate if you added the sum of the illegals + the amnestied over 6 years + the generous work visas the government doles out + the tourist and other non work visas that work anyway or do not.

[LAPhil]

Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola

The reason the government keeps spouting that number is that it is probably close to accurate given that many of the illegals from years prior have been given legal status, ie amnesty. Maybe not citizenship, but legal status to work. I've been harping about this since my early days at SOS, and I know people don't want to hear it, but it's true. They are, and have been legalizing a big portion of the illegal entrants every year, but we have new ones that take their place. Now if you added the amnestied ones into the numbers since 2003 or 2004, you'd probably have 20 to 25 million illegals. I think RIM's estiate would be accurate if you added the sum of the illegals + the amnestied over 6 years + the generous work visas the government doles out + the tourist and other non work visas that work anyway or do not.

Interesting. How are those illegals who get amnesty or legal status able to do so?

[Twoller]

Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola

The reason the government keeps spouting that number is that it is probably close to accurate given that many of the illegals from years prior have been given legal status, ie amnesty. Maybe not citizenship, but legal status to work. I've been harping about this since my early days at SOS, and I know people don't want to hear it, but it's true. They are, and have been legalizing a big portion of the illegal entrants every year, but we have new ones that take their place. Now if you added the amnestied ones into the numbers since 2003 or 2004, you'd probably have 20 to 25 million illegals. I think RIM's estiate would be accurate if you added the sum of the illegals + the amnestied over 6 years + the generous work visas the government doles out + the tourist and other non work visas that work anyway or do not.

"They [the government] are, and have been legalizing a big portion of the illegal entrants every year ..." I'd need to see more details on how this occurs before I believed that.

It is better to over estimate the number of illegals then it is underestimate. And let us not forget that illegal immigration could not exist if it were not for the efforts of those who are here legally and also for those who are naturalized citizens. So it is non-citizens in this country that are the basical problem and this number needs to go down. The number needs to be decreased through massive deportation through increasing criminalization of activities by both illegals and legals, that is the only way, and unless we stand for that, amnesty is the only other solution.