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Old 03-25-2011, 11:24 PM
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The scaffold thing seemed provocative when I first saw it, but knowing what I do about your fairness I didn't give it much thought.

Appearances mean a lot to some people, and the suggestion of a noose via the execution scaffold could be cataclysmatic. Regretfully, one of the things I have learned over the years concerning group politics is that it doesn't matter how sincere one is within one's heart, what one appears to do to the shallow is far more important than what one does in reality.

Do the best to stay true, but some political correctness will always apply as far as potential politics will rear its ugly head.
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Old 03-25-2011, 11:30 PM
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The scaffold thing seemed provocative when I first saw it, but knowing what I do about your fairness I didn't give it much thought.

Appearances mean a lot to some people, and the suggestion of a noose via the execution scaffold could be cataclysmatic. Regretfully, one of the things I have learned over the years concerning group politics is that it doesn't matter how sincere one is within one's heart, what one appears to do to the shallow is far more important than what one does in reality.

Do the best to stay true, but some political correctness will always apply.
The scaffold was just an excuse. The aid would have done this anyway, the scaffold just gave him something to point to.

There's a lot about some people that few know about and haven't taken the time to do much investigation to find out. That could be said of Joe and Chelene and especially Schwilk. But I have a feeling they're going to get some needed info in the future.
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Old 03-25-2011, 11:40 PM
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I only spoke to Joe face to face twice, I don't know him.

I've had my experience with Chelene, but I can't speak for anyone else in that regard.

I don't know Schwilk and I don't give a rat's ass about him. He is not important to I and I'm not important to him.

However, appearances and perceptions do count for a lot. The exception by Donelley's aide may be an excuse for distancing, but appearances do count to the masses.
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Old 03-25-2011, 11:43 PM
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The above reply was to Jean, but the reference to "crazy people" is out of bounds.

The issue now is whether the aide is speaking for the politician or himself.
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Old 03-26-2011, 12:00 PM
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The above reply was to Jean, but the reference to "crazy people" is out of bounds.

The issue now is whether the aide is speaking for the politician or himself.
That aide certainly has his own personal email, but this one came from the assembly.ca.gov
I don't want to spend a bunch of energy and time on this. The state capitol is chock full of people who don't receive SOS's input or visits well; a couple more aren't going to change things for the better or worse really.
I'll still be going to the actual committee hearing on the 5th, since it is a government exercise, and we will still try to weigh in on the bill itself.
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Old 03-26-2011, 12:42 PM
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... I fear that all of our efforts to bring this bill to the capital will be hurt by crazy people that your movement attracts.
So you were talking about a bill? What was the bill? Sorry about not knowing already.
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Old 03-26-2011, 04:59 PM
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So you were talking about a bill? What was the bill? Sorry about not knowing already.
It's AB26
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Old 03-26-2011, 05:23 PM
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It does appear the nut cases are still attempting to lead this movement so nothing has really changed. This Schick guy, nightingale, Don Silva, Barbara Coe, Gheen, Turner, Gilcrest, etc...have done more harm than good. They all started out with a nobel cause and then they destroyed it with petty in fighting to down right criminal behavior........the funny thing is they are calling Davi a traitor. Like most Napoleonic / Hitler type dictators, they can't take constructive criticism. Things have to there way or the highway and the problem is, they do not have a clue.This is not a leader: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjImcBRYYYQ

"it's a order, why? because I said so" I must have failed to get the memo...no one told me they appointed this guy god...

You lead by example and this guy is setting a piss poor example. He became a puppet to a uneducated puppet master. If these idiots are the leaders of the movement, kiss the movement good by. If they cared about the movement, they would step aside and fade away. They won't though. All they care about are themselves. They are in this for personal gain. They need to have there Ego's stroked..They are nobodies trying to be something. They are a waist of time.
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Old 03-25-2011, 11:51 PM
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However, appearances and perceptions do count for a lot. The exception by Donelley's aide may be an excuse for distancing, but appearances do count to the masses.
He went quite far beyond the picture, into something that really had no bearing on it whatsoever.
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He went quite far beyond the picture, into something that really had no bearing on it whatsoever.
No argument here.
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