White Nationalist Alert

ohighlass · #1 09-13-2010, 09:08 AM

I heard something last week that farmers in No Cal were offering picking jobs to anyone unemployed due to the recession. Odd, I say, that illegals have "moved" (or taken over, if you will) into construction and blue collar jobs like trucking; only to have dispossed Americans offered the jobs that THEY NO LONGER WILL DO. Something's wrong with this picture. I remember when those jobs required apprenticeships and memberships into unions that actually cared about their people - not just the money from the dues.

Maybe this is the wrong thread as it has nothing to do with white nationalists, really.

ilbegone · #2 09-13-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ohighlass

Maybe this is the wrong thread as it has nothing to do with white nationalists, really.

It did in the beginning, then evolved into a couple of other discussions...

wetibbe · #3 09-13-2010, 11:15 AM

Just to expound on my attitude:

The USA is rushing to the brink of the cliff with immigration. It is absolutely a lunatic, self destruction.

I would like to see ALL immigration halted immediately both legal and illegal until we see some semblance of common sense.

Furthermore I would like to see a reduction in US population little by little. But I am a realist, not an ideologue.

The "system" is structured to increase, build more homes, make more cars, increase, proliferate, make more money .........................................

The consequences of a reduction in population are already understood. Disaster!

Thus we are on a Nantucket sleigh ride. The politician, the businessmen will want more and more.

I could expound on the dilemma but it would fall on deaf ears. It takes people with insight and vision to understand that we, as a people, are bent on destroying our planet in the coming decades.

The species Homo Sapiens could certainly become extinct. And there are too few who really understand.

Twoller · #4 09-13-2010, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wetibbe

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The consequences of a reduction in population are already understood. Disaster!

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I could expound on the dilemma but it would fall on deaf ears. It takes people with insight and vision to understand that we, as a people, are bent on destroying our planet in the coming decades.

The species Homo Sapiens could certainly become extinct. And there are too few who really understand.

Is this a misprint? "The consequences of a reduction in population are already understood. Disaster!" Or explain what you mean by that.

ilbegone · #5 09-13-2010, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Twoller

Is this a misprint? "The consequences of a reduction in population are already understood. Disaster!" Or explain what you mean by that.

I believe he's speaking of implosion, a collapse of society and all that maintains it if the forward momentum of growth in population, productivity, and profit isn't maintained.

Depleted of energy, the star falls in on itself.

There will eventually be an end to it, the question is not if - it is when.

wetibbe · #6 09-14-2010, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ilbegone

I believe he's speaking of implosion, a collapse of society and all that maintains it if the forward momentum of growth in population, productivity, and profit isn't maintained.

Depleted of energy, the star falls in on itself.

There will eventually be an end to it, the question is not if - it is when.

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Exactly precise

Twoller · #7 09-14-2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by wetibbe

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Furthermore I would like to see a reduction in US population little by little. But I am a realist, not an ideologue.

The "system" is structured to increase, build more homes, make more cars, increase, proliferate, make more money .........................................

The consequences of a reduction in population are already understood. Disaster!

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So, you would like to see a reduction in US population, but you think the consequences of a reduction in population are "already understood" to be a disaster.

If you would like to see a reduction in US population, then you at least agree that the US population, at least, should be stabilized at some fixed number. How many fewer people should the US have and what about the rest of the world?

ilbegone · #8 09-14-2010, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Twoller

So, you would like to see a reduction in US population, but you think the consequences of a reduction in population are "already understood" to be a disaster.

If you would like to see a reduction in US population, then you at least agree that the US population, at least, should be stabilized at some fixed number. How many fewer people should the US have and what about the rest of the world?

Not speaking for wetibbe...

Prosperity of a nation concerning conventional economics and regardless of individual prosperity is based on viable trade and ursury, not cutting back a population.

All of that is in one way or another dependent on traditional growth.

What we need is a viable economic model which doesn't depend on traditional growth for prosperity, something which brings in wealth from the outside and in which every citizen participating in a meaningful manner gets a cut.

And recycled 1960's social theory doesn't cut it.

wetibbe · #9 09-15-2010, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Twoller

So, you would like to see a reduction in US population, but you think the consequences of a reduction in population are "already understood" to be a disaster.

If you would like to see a reduction in US population, then you at least agree that the US population, at least, should be stabilized at some fixed number. How many fewer people should the US have and what about the rest of the world?

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According to environmental report I read many years ago, from a biological, environmental standpoint the land mass of the USA should accommodate 50 million.

Remember that I spent a lifetime in Earth History and I am an aficionado of archaeology. In my area of discipline I think in terms of hundreds of millions of years, geology, evolution and the development of the primates including the predecessors of the Neanderthals and Cro-magnons.

The Europeans didn't even know that North America existed in the early 1,500's. Williamsburg, Virginia may have been an early attempt to populate but Plymouth, Massachusetts was the first successful colony in 1620. Then it was a few hundred, then hundreds of thousands, then millions and then hundreds of millions.

I would like to see over 100 million disappear over time. The USA could deal with 100 to 150 million. *( From an environmental standpoint, but that's absolutely impossible to achieve, ever, without some dramatic changes in politics, economy and lifestyle ). Indeed even from the national security aspect our standing Army would be to small to cope with the massive increases in China, with the Muslims and other adversaries.

I lived overseas for more than 14 years on several continents. I saw how they "live" - exist. The world is very seriously overpopulated now.

Here is Roy Becks explanation in gumballs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WJeqxuOfQ

Twoller · #10 09-15-2010, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wetibbe

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The Europeans didn't even know that North America existed in the early 1,500's. Williamsburg, Virginia may have been an early attempt to populate but Plymouth, Massachusetts was the first successful colony in 1620. Then it was a few hundred, then hundreds of thousands, then millions and then hundreds of millions.

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But of course the Americas was richly populated with people when the Europeans got here.

And also there were settlements in the northeast by Scandinavians before the 1500's. They just never took hold.

I don't think military concerns are important when considering ideal populations. Too much of military confrontations have to do with populations encroaching on one another, especially these days. And again, even with the military, quality wins out over quantity every time.