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Old 02-10-2010, 06:58 PM
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The other day I spoke with a young woman who came from the middle east: In all the conversation, she referred to her originating locality as "Persia", only once did say "Iran".

I had seen her a few times, seemed like a nice, perhaps shy person. I asked her what kind of music she liked, it's pop and rap. Then I asked her what kind of music her parents like - I misunderstood at first, sounded like "dispersia" (as in "dispersing", which confused me), but I got the idea after a couple of repetitions. It was Persian.

So the next question had to do with whatever concern her parents had about her being Americanized. She said that they had that worry, but she didn't consider herself to be all that Americanized, that she was proud of being Persian.The next thing I believe she misunderstood, I asked why half the people around the world hate us and why were the other half trying to get here. She replied that she didn't really like to push her Persian heritage because Persia had hurt her so much. Being of a minority religion, she commented that when Muslims found out one was not Muslim, they could and would do whatever they wanted with the non Muslim.

After a while I asked her what minority religion she belonged to, the reaction was dramatic.

Previously, she had been rather low voiced and almost shy, but now, not quite having flaring nostrils and fiery eyes, she became the most assertive I have seen her to date.

Seeming to grow several inches, it was more a proclamation than a statement: "JEWISH".

She left for a little bit, then returned. I asked if there was any problems with her being a Persian Jew In America. She said no, no one cared in the slightest that she is a Persian Jew.

The part where she mentioned Iran is where she commented that there were a lot of ignorant people who asked her questions. I replied "Such as I". She countered no, at least I seemed to know where Iran was at, most people assume her to be from Iraq.

I believe there has been bad blood between much of the concept of "Iraq" and the concept of "Iran". I appreciate, whether she was merely being polite or sincere, that she made the above comment concerning myself.

She was, as I remember, 13 when she entered the United States with her parents. She is now 21. I don't know the circumstances of their arrival.
The Persians/Iranians are the nicest looking in the Middle East, some are down right gorgeous. But they are some of the worst to do business with, actually the worst of any in the Middle East. I just walk away, I've learned my lesson when dealing with them.
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Old 02-10-2010, 08:57 PM
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The Persians/Iranians are the nicest looking in the Middle East, some are down right gorgeous. But they are some of the worst to do business with, actually the worst of any in the Middle East. I just walk away, I've learned my lesson when dealing with them.
I'm not doing business with her, nor am I talking with her because of her looks. I'm curious, I want to hear her story. A Jewish Persian from a Muslim country, that intrigues me.

Yesterday, I was speaking with a Thai woman who has a Japanese boyfriend.

She's been here for quite some time, but not interested in citizenship. I asked her why, it has to do with what she perceives as the hassle of getting a visa to visit her relatives in Thailand.

I asked her what did she like about the United States - It was her freedom as a woman. She can work and go wherever she wants, in Thailand, it's the family business only and her brothers suffocate her in public.

Then I asked what she didn't like about the US. She said the lack of genuine closeness between relatives and friends, no one helps the other. Everyone is on their own.

A relative of mine is married to a Thai woman, a genuinely wonderful person.

I had an intense conversation today with the Mexican woman who dislikes the questionable morality of Spanish language radio. As I said, she is not a typical Mexican, and what we discussed blew me away with her conclusions. One is why should Mexicans come here for "crumbs", when they should be confronting their own government over the "necessity" for Mexicans to come here, that it really is an insult to wave the Mexican flag here.

There is much more, most I take as sincere honesty. I wish I could share it.
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Brentwood has a huge population of Iranian Jews! I had no idea until I worked out there and most of our practice was Iranian Jewish professionals! We had two law clerks both of which were Iranian Jews. Iranians normally refer to themselves as Persians. They identify with the historical glory of the Persian empire rather than the oppressive Iranian regime.

In the long ago time, I dated a couple of Persian guys. They could lie like rugs! It was amusing how they could lie. Underneath it all, they were as oppressive as any Ayatollah.

Yes they are a good looking people. Iran, parts of Afghanistan and northern Pakistan have some beautiful people both men and women. The reason is because they are genetically Aryan and descendants of German invaders hundreds of years ago.
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With repect to the student protests, the big argument in Los Angeles right now is whether or not the police should be allowed protective gear during muslim protests.

http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/01/2...orn-for-riots/

Out of fear that protective helmets would only anger the protesters, the police were denied helmets. One officer was struck in the head and hospitalized.

The controversy is not helped by regulations that police horses are provided protective eye gear. The pro palestinian protesters always go for the eyes of the horses and try to blind them.
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Old 02-11-2010, 07:18 AM
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Yes they are a good looking people. Iran, parts of Afghanistan and northern Pakistan have some beautiful people both men and women. The reason is because they are genetically Aryan and descendants of German invaders hundreds of years ago.
I'm not quite sure, but it seems as though you are saying that beauty has its foundation in aryan genetics?
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I'm not quite sure, but it seems as though you are saying that beauty has its foundation in aryan genetics?
Why is that Eurasians are generally considered more beautiful than either Europeans or Asians! True for both men and women.

For a definitive answer to you question what I am saying is that the mixture of Aryan and semitic genetics results in some people from the middle east that are quite good looking.

If you want to investigate my genetic opinions further, yes Halle Berry is better looking than Oprah Winfrey.

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Old 02-11-2010, 09:09 AM
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Asking a pertinent and very racist question,

Would Naveen Andrews be as much of a hot guy if his father wasn't British?

Conversely, if his mother wasn't Indian he would have some pretty terrible teeth.

I think that's a racist slam against the English. My bad.

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Why is that Eurasians are generally considered more beautiful than either Europeans or Asians! True for both men and women.

For a definitive answer to you question what I am saying is that the mixture of Aryan and semitic genetics results in some people from the middle east that are quite good looking.

If you want to investigate my genetic opinions further, yes Halle Berry is better looking than Oprah Winfrey.
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Asking a pertinent and very racist question,

Would Naveen Andrews be as much of a hot guy if his father wasn't British?

Conversely, if his mother wasn't Indian he would have some pretty terrible teeth.

I think that's a racist slam against the English. My bad.
I think you've cleared that up for me. I don't know who Naveen is, so I can't argue with you about that, but personally I think that the blending of races produces differing results as far as beauty goes, and I don't know that aryan genes are any better at increasing the chances that offspring will be attractive any more than mixing black and asian or asian hispanic, etc.
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Brentwood has a huge population of Iranian Jews! I had no idea until I worked out there and most of our practice was Iranian Jewish professionals! We had two law clerks both of which were Iranian Jews. Iranians normally refer to themselves as Persians. They identify with the historical glory of the Persian empire rather than the oppressive Iranian regime.

In the long ago time, I dated a couple of Persian guys. They could lie like rugs! It was amusing how they could lie. Underneath it all, they were as oppressive as any Ayatollah.

Yes they are a good looking people. Iran, parts of Afghanistan and northern Pakistan have some beautiful people both men and women. The reason is because they are genetically Aryan and descendants of German invaders hundreds of years ago.
As many of you know I lived in Brentwood for about 12 years and about 3 years in Westwood. I know the Persians well and how rude so many can be. Yes many are nice looking, but their culture sucks. Persian culture is one I find that has very little I like or agree with.
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