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Old 08-24-2010, 07:36 AM
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No Twoller, that was the point of my post above. We've been harboring illegals so long in this state that they've managed to spawn enough anchors that have lived within their enclaves of mexican culture to become a non english speaking section of California. They didn't have to pass a test to vote; They're natives now, and they are mexican speakers. And a million more are on the way.
We don't have to settle for that. They are anchor babies, not citizens and to further support that, they don't speak English.

Why not make that clear, speaking English is not a way to flatter US citizenship, it is mandatory. If you cannot speak English, you cannot be a citizen. Time to ratchet it up a notch.
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Old 08-24-2010, 08:08 AM
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We don't have to settle for that. They are anchor babies, not citizens and to further support that, they don't speak English.

Why not make that clear, speaking English is not a way to flatter US citizenship, it is mandatory. If you cannot speak English, you cannot be a citizen. Time to ratchet it up a notch.
Unfortunately, there is absolutely no barrier to citizenship as long as you are born here. This is a weakness the open borders lobby has been exploiting for decades. With that in place, finding every possible way to get foreigners here is their only other required component to the plan.
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Old 08-24-2010, 12:37 PM
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Unfortunately, there is absolutely no barrier to citizenship as long as you are born here. ...
Do you settle for that? You have no opposition to that?
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Old 08-24-2010, 07:56 PM
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Do you settle for that? You have no opposition to that?
Opposition or not, that's the way it is.

There are people who have been NATURALIZED citizens for 30 and 40 years who don't speak English, and don't want to.

And, while I don't believe it is as severe as others do, I have met people who have graduated from US high schools who don't speak much English at all, right next to zilch.

My latest experience with all this (short story, there's much more to it to piss you off than I'm relating) was with a co-worker who barely spoke English. The company we were employed by paid him to go to ESL classes - he took the early time off but was busted going home on a regular basis instead of going to class. Eventually he was asked for documentation to prove that he was going to the classes, but never ponied it up. So eventually he was terminated from employment.

So, here is a guy who was too "proud" of his Mexican-ness to bow to English even while being paid to learn in addition to all the other scams he allegedly committed. And while most Mexicans are willing to work for peanuts, he was making good money - threw it all away in exchange for his concept of what it is to be "Mexican".
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Old 08-24-2010, 08:37 PM
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Opposition or not, that's the way it is.

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I think it is a worthy target for confrontation. Who says we can't throw these people out too? The claims they make for their presence is a corruption on our constitution and our citizenship. It isn't necessary to respect the citizenship of people who have made false claims on it even though the authorities treat them like the real thing.

Language is the easy part. If you can't speak English, you can't be a US citizen. This is thinking that anyone who respects the integrity of their own citizenship can embrace.

But just because you are fluent in English, doesn't mean you can't be an illegal immigrant or make false claims on citizenship.
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