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Old 09-19-2010, 02:12 PM
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Any governor, after being elected, must have a cabinet at the ready to install. The republicans and democrats have a plethora of choices and nominees for the positions sitting stacked on the governor desk. Chelene would be picking from a pile of leftovers, has-beens, never was, never will be, and manny wanna-be's. in the vaccuum, the governors agneda would be idle or thwarted. The AIP or the constitution party, either one, have to few friendly faces for Chelene to be leaning on for support. Many of the constitution party people don't really like her stand on immigration or a few others, so she'd be drawing from a fairly dry well for some talent. And with Chelene's historically proven record for lopping off heads, she'd run out of talent in the first year or less.
You are speaking of hypotheticals here and a very dramatic hypothetical as well.

If Chelene were actually elected governor, this would mean that the public supported her and also it would mean that she had access to power, real power.

The power that we see exercised under the current "two party system" is the power to maintain a largely invisible status quo. If Chelene were actually elected governor, then she would be able to draw on a vast array of real talent that has been waiting for a long time to put itself to work. The only real question is whether she would be able to make the right decisions in applying this talent. The only way to tell if she could do this is what she said she wanted to do when she became governor.

She can't attract this talent now because the talent largely sees that she doesn't stand a chance. But also the talent doesn't see much in the way to be excited about in what her plans for being governor are. If she had more vision, or were more willing to share what that vision was, she might be exciting enough to attract that talent now.
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Old 09-19-2010, 02:45 PM
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You are speaking of hypotheticals here and a very dramatic hypothetical as well.

If Chelene were actually elected governor, this would mean that the public supported her and also it would mean that she had access to power, real power.

The power that we see exercised under the current "two party system" is the power to maintain a largely invisible status quo. If Chelene were actually elected governor, then she would be able to draw on a vast array of real talent that has been waiting for a long time to put itself to work. The only real question is whether she would be able to make the right decisions in applying this talent. The only way to tell if she could do this is what she said she wanted to do when she became governor.

She can't attract this talent now because the talent largely sees that she doesn't stand a chance. But also the talent doesn't see much in the way to be excited about in what her plans for being governor are. If she had more vision, or were more willing to share what that vision was, she might be exciting enough to attract that talent now.
If Chelene actually made it, it would only demonstrate that the California electorate is terminally nuts.

A candidate has to have an extremely thick skin.

One of the indications that she doesn't have a chance is because serious competition is thoroughly investigated by opposing campaign advisers. "They" will know more about Chelene than her mother, husband, past romantic interests, and close friends and confidants combined.

And they would set her up to say or do something exploitable. Any minor blemish in her past will be spun into a major character defect with sociopathic tendencies.

There are copies of the old SOS forums collected by obsessed people who make it their life to do such information gathering, even the stuff she deleted. Chelene's evident management style of the old SOS will be like her trying to swim over the Marianas Trench with concrete shoes and an anvil tied to her neck as far as serious political candidacy is concerned.

And serious political players will avoid her like the plague.

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I don't have time to look it up now, there may be a link over at Fight Back in Sac in one of the threads bagging on Chelene. Indymedia foretold exactly what was going to happen at the old SOS before Chelene's hands fully gripped the reins and before Joe fully let go, and they specifically commented on her extreme authoritarianism and the type of damage she was going to do to SOS.
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Old 09-19-2010, 06:32 PM
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If Chelene actually made it, it would only demonstrate that the California electorate is terminally nuts.

Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein have been California''s senators for the last 18 years. How much more of a demonstration do you require?
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Old 09-19-2010, 09:21 PM
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Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein have been California''s senators for the last 18 years. How much more of a demonstration do you require?
It's not so much a difference of relative substance as it is that of style.

Chelene rejected me without so much as a kiss on the cheek, kicked me to the curb in a most rude manner at the old SOS.

Boxer and Feinstein, on the other hand, would screw me over much harder than Chelene could ever accomplish in her wildest paranoid dreams, but at least they will try to make me feel good about it by telling me what they think I should hear, jerking me off as they steal my wallet while relegating me to fourth class citizenship.

Totally different class of political HO tossing me off the island.
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