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Old 09-24-2011, 02:14 PM
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Perry's inopportune comment is his Howard Dean Scream moment. He is trying to wiggle out of it and can't. He won't. It did him in.

He forgot for a moment that he is applying for a NATIONAL office not state, not Texas not where there are a lot of illegals and their voting relatives. Perry told parents in Nebraska, Kansas, Montana, and all of the other 49 states that if they are heartless if they object to paying a subsidy for the children of illegals to go to Texas A&M when their own children can't go without paying full price.

It might sell in Texas, but it's a loser nationally.
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Old 09-25-2011, 06:05 AM
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I don't know why we can not have at least one or two quality candidates.
What's on the ballot is what the parties present us.

We have two extremist parties which fight over control of the nation's future, and any candidate which strays too far from his party's position will usually be politically destroyed. The third parties are generally comprised of kooks or otherwise don't have a snowballs chance in hell of successfully fielding a candidate.

Politics is a nasty business, with all the character assassination and backstabbing that goes on and such. The guy who shakes your hand and convincingly assures you of his deep personal concern for you while kissing your baby as well as your ass usually isn't such a nice guy, he can't be and make it in politics.

I believe that to get more than lip service towards meaningfully enforcing immigration law means cleaning out the rat's nests which decide unwritten party policy - both of them.

It has to be negative experience for employers to hire illegals and public employees have to be punished for doling out public services to the illegally present, which mean that politicians have to feel some sort of pain for supporting employers and governmental hacks who do so. That means cleaning out the back room rats who give blessings and marching orders to politicians.

Everyone is focused on the national picture, but in reality it begins with city hall and the county seat, the most unobserved political units in America. Get the small ones, and the big ones fall with them. America was built on the township, and that's how America will be reclaimed by its citizens.
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Old 09-25-2011, 01:06 PM
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I am remembering when Perry gathered about 30,000 followers and prayed for rain, he got more fires.
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Old 09-26-2011, 05:14 AM
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I, too, cringe when I hear Perry's bad grammar. I certainly don't mind a Texas accent but the lingo he uses makes his sound like a dumb hick.

Some Texas singer Buddy said of Perry: He has the heart of a Democrat and the mind of a Republican !!!!!????? That must make him some sort of a political mongrel. He started out as a Democrat and converted to Republicanism. But obviously he still retains much of the ingrained Democrat mentality.

It seems that the straw pole results were more a repudiation of Perry than an approval of Cain. Cain siphoned off many votes and essentially left Romney trailing Perry slightly. But Michelle Bachmann finishing dead last is quite a mystery. I think basically this illustrates that the straw polls are essentially worthless and misleading regional attitudes of very small groups of Republicans. The straw poll was estimated at 2,900 to 3,500 GOP.

Perry's thorny dilemma is that he apparently wants to appeal to a broad spectrum to capture both the liberal and conservative votes. This doesn't work in Uber-Conservative straw polls and debates for the Republican nomination. The straw polls are not National elections where Perry can get liberal, Latino, Independent and Conservative votes from the whole spectrum of all voters all over the nation.

As Bill Buckley said: "I vote for the Conservative who can get elected".

Interestingly it is looking more like Obama may not run for a second term.
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Old 09-26-2011, 07:47 AM
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Interestingly it is looking more like Obama may not run for a second term.
Obama isn't going to go for the second term? Where do you get that?
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Obama isn't going to go for the second term? Where do you get that?
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From lots of places but generally three areas:

#1. My own deductions and observations. Obama is apparently on a path of self destruction politically. Practically everything he says now offends everyone. Even his own blacks are now down on him. The Jews. The left. The youth.

#2. Numerous pundits all over the Internet. Dick Morris included.

Alexander Cornswalled: Obama admits he won't run in 2012, signs ...


http://www.cornswalled.com/2009/03/o...012-signs.html


Mar 20, 2009 Obama admits he won't run in 2012, signs post administration book deal ... is an admission he won't have a second term, President Obama has ...


Why Obama won't seek 2nd term

www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=312393

Jun 18, 2011 Why Obama won't seek 2nd term ... to win a second term. Just look at the way he is already second-guessing his announcement to run again. ...

Cavuto's prediction: Obama won't run for a second term Hot Air

hotair.com/.../cavutos-prediction-obama-wont-run-for-a-second-term...

Aug 23, 2010 Cavuto's prediction: Obama won't run for a second term.

Farah predicts: Obama won't run for 2nd term; cites birth certificate ...


http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/.../f...ont-run-for-2n...


Jun 19, 2011 Despite President Obama's announcement that he's running for a second term, Joseph Farah of WorldNetDaily's not buying it. Farah writes: I ...

Obama May Not Run For A Second Term


www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/2779730/posts


Sep 17, 2011 ... to comments. Obama May Not Run For A Second Term .... If Obama is replaced by a white person of either sex, blacks in general won't vote. ...
President Obama won't run in 2012: A reader's prediction | NJ.com

blog.nj.com Letters to The Star-Ledger Letters to the Editor

Sep 6, 2011 Traditionally, incumbent presidents always seek a second term. A recent exception ... President Obama won't run in 2012: A reader's prediction ...

Why Obama won't run for a second term | Socialism is not the Answer
socialismisnottheanswer.wordpress.com/.../why-obama-wont-run-for-...

Why Obama won't run for a second term. Posted on July 22, 2010 by 1dragon| 10 Comments. Great American Journal. Obama has no intention of running for a ...

Clinton says she won't serve in Obama's second term | The Cable

thecable.foreignpolicy.com/.../clinton_says_she_won_t_serve_in_ob...

Mar 16, 2011 Clinton says she won't serve in Obama's second term ... to be defense secretary or vice president and will not run for the presidency in 2016. ...

Clinton says no to second term CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com ...

politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/.../clinton-running-for-preside...

Mar 16, 2011 I think there is a likelihood that the Dems may ask Obama no to run for a .... They sure as Hades won't get a second term most of them will be ...

Why Obama won't seek 2nd term ~ By Joseph Farah


http://www.boanow.com/why-obama-wont...-joseph-farah/


Jun 18, 2011 However, it turns out that it isn't really a matter of whether or not I agree with Joseph's premise that Obama won't run for the second term. ...

#3. Obama's eligibility. His birth certificate release has been proven a fraud. Now his social security number cannot be verified as his own. Numerous states are now passing local laws requiring positive certification which he will not be able to provide.

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