Back to the Border 2011

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Originally Posted by Twoller

Funny, why is it that a secure border always means our southern border? We have a northern border with problems too. What do you have to report on our northern border? Anything?

There is plenty to be said about "border states". New York is a border state. Not only does it have a long frontier with Canada but it also has lots of coast line and airports.
Canada's border is much longer than Mexico's. But unlike Mexico Canadians enjoy a high standard of living and education as well as being ethnically similar to Americans in The USA. The whole country is the second largest, geographically, in the world after Russia. But it's population is only around 32 - 35 million as opposed to Mexico's 100 million plus. Central America, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Honduras also contribute as does the Caribbean, Cuba, Haiti. And South America Ecuador, Venezuela, Brazil. Canadians do not flock across. It is predominantly foreigners who enter Canada in transit to the the USA. However, the Campesino's certainly do cross over from the USA headed North. Whereas the Southern border crossers are predominantly seeking work, or trafficking drugs, or committing crimes or escaping from their country's law, the Canadian border crossings appear to be largely terrorists.
Back several years, in the heyday of MCDC Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, there was a Long Island, NY, headquartered outfit that was organizing Northern border weekend watches up on the Canadian border. It's a 4 hour drive up there. Many who committed to go didn't show up on the appointed day. Those that did go essentially hung around the border stations kicking a soccer ball back and forth to the Canadians. I don't think they ever actually saw an illegal border crosser. It was a publicity stunt to drum up interest in the Arizona border fence that MCDC said it would build. We hear very little about any apprehensions. Occasionally someone is caught crossing the ST. Lawrence river, or Lake Erie, in a boat, that gets spotted and caught. It's pretty remote, little populated and very forested up there in Northern New York, Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine. The Canadian side is even more so.
So far as the UAV drone aircraft are concerned, the past record of the Texas UAV,s according to reports, wasn't impressive. The actual hours flown were very low. Only a fraction of available hours. And apprehensions were rather dismal. Low numbers. Cost was high per man caught. It wasn't very cost effective. Boots on the ground were far more efficient and much lower cost with many more contacts. DHS put up 6 UAV"S recently, from Brownsville, Texas to San Diego, California but I haven't seen any reports of hours in air or apprehensions.
Sad to say it is getting increasingly more and more difficult to get a straight story out of DHS, CBP, ICE and BATF. They are so busy spinning, deceiving, covering up that there is little credibility.