New Government Forming To Take Over US

[wetibbe]

Not everyone can. You are vetted. If you don't pass muster you are out. A condion is that you do not egage in political diatribe and propaganda.

Some have the disillusion that Infragard is a spy operation on Americans. Nothing could be further from the truth.

I'm not selling Infragard. To each his own. But I can tell you that I am a very dedicated member that respects the principals and thanks them daily for their dedication and service to our country.

[Twoller]

Originally Posted by wetibbe

Not everyone can. You are vetted. If you don't pass muster you are out. A condion is that you do not egage in political diatribe and propaganda.

Some have the disillusion that Infragard is a spy operation on Americans. Nothing could be further from the truth.

I'm not selling Infragard. To each his own. But I can tell you that I am a very dedicated member that respects the principals and thanks them daily for their dedication and service to our country.

Here is the code of ethics posted by InfraGard:

http://www.infragard.com/membership/..._of_ethics.pdf

Code of Ethics
As an InfraGard member it is my responsibility to:
• Promote the protection and advancement of the critical infrastructure of the United States of America.
• Cooperate with others in the interchange of knowledge and ideas for mutual protection.
• Support the education of members and the general public in a diligent, loyal, honest manner, and not knowingly be a part of any illegal or improper activities.
• Serve in the interests of InfraGard and the general public in a diligent, loyal, and honest manner, and will not knowingly be a party to any illegal or improper activities.
• Maintain confidentiality, and prevent the use for competitive advantage at the expense of other members, of information obtained in the course of my involvement with InfraGard, which includes but is not limited to:
o Information concerning the business of a fellow member or company.
o Information identified as proprietary, confidential or sensitive.
• Abide by the National and Local Chapter InfraGard Bylaws.
• Protect and respect the privacy rights, civil rights, and physical and intellectual property rights of others.

I don't see anything about "political diatribe and propaganda". It seems to me that you can engage in as much political diatribe and propaganda as you want as long as you do not represent InfraGard while you are doing it, nor do you engage in political diatribe and propaganda while particpating in some activity advancing the interests of InfraGard.

Engaging in political diatribe and propaganda is the right of every citizen of the United States here in these United States. Unless you have some professional obligations, especially if you are a government employee of some kind, then no such restrictions should apply to you. And InfraGard is nothing like a professional position.

[wetibbe]

Thanks for posting.

"Political diatribe and propaganda" is/are my words, not Infragard's. Early on I circulated an E-mail with some critical remarks about the President and I soon received an E-mail back from the VP-Secretary of our chapter warning me that that type of language wouldn't be well received, and I would be advised to refrain from such in the future. What I wrote was commonly seen in many newspaper and media articles. I got the message.

He didn't say I couldn't. Just that it wasn't a smart thing to do if I wanted to avoid repercussions from unknown sources who might take offense or consider it slander or defamation.

Otherwise I agree with you.

I found a similar attitude on the DHS website "Our Borders". It's a "social network". The moderators delete posts and jostle posters who post things critical of DHS, CBP or ICE, or reveal embarrassing facts about the "border". They like people who agree with them and say nice, complimentary, innocuous things.

[Twoller]

Originally Posted by wetibbe

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... Early on I circulated an E-mail with some critical remarks about the President and I soon received an E-mail back from the VP-Secretary of our chapter warning me that that type of language wouldn't be well received, and I would be advised to refrain from such in the future. What I wrote was commonly seen in many newspaper and media articles. I got the message.

He didn't say I couldn't. Just that it wasn't a smart thing to do if I wanted to avoid repercussions from unknown sources who might take offense or consider it slander or defamation.

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You say you were circulating an email. Who were the recipients of the email? Were any of them InfraGard members?

[wetibbe]

The E-mail was sent to several "Patriot Groups" in surrounding states that commonly communicate, jointly attend "events/demonstrations", and also send E-mails.

I included the VP-Secretary of Infragard, unwittingly, and he responded to the E-mail I sent to him. I have since dropped him from the list of recipients although I do contact him privately about matters. He's a good guy just trying to be helpful.

[Twoller]

Originally Posted by wetibbe

The E-mail was sent to several "Patriot Groups" in surrounding states that commonly communicate, jointly attend "events/demonstrations", and also send E-mails.

I included the VP-Secretary of Infragard, unwittingly, and he responded to the E-mail I sent to him. I have since dropped him from the list of recipients although I do contact him privately about matters. He's a good guy just trying to be helpful.

My apologies to the Ayatollah, this all way off topic.

If the VP had cautioned you about the content of your email and you had not included any InfraGard members, then InfraGard would most certainly have been spying on you. Otherwise they had no idea that you were not attending to InfraGard business.

You have to sign up in order to see the Rules of Behavior. Since you signed up, maybe you can copy and paste what they were, unless you are sworn to secrecy or something.

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by Twoller

My apologies to the Ayatollah, this all way off topic.

No; it's not really off the topic. It actually does highlight just how we fall into smaller groups and such. I don't remember that much about infragaurd, but I'll bet they went the same way as the rest, and so will the one that was the subject of this thread. I tuned in to their radio show, and it started out with a lengthy prayer. I'm not against prayer, but the show was on a wednesday, and I would think most people who tuned in, came to try and find others that want to organize or discuss the government. I wonder just how many people tuned out as soon as the prayer drug on