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Old 01-12-2011, 11:36 AM
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Soros-funded Dope Lobby in Damage Control Over Shootings

By Cliff Kincaid | January 11, 2011
In sorting through the political charges and counter-charges, two facts remain clear: the Arizona shooter, Jared Loughner, was a drug abuser, and drug use is linked to mental illness. In addition to classmates who were quoted as saying that he was a regular user of marijuana, The Washington Post confirmed that he “was rejected from enlistment in the U.S. Army because of issues related to his history of drug use…” Going into more detail, Time magazine reports that Loughner admitted to the military that “he was a regular marijuana user.”
In a provocative article, “Did Pot Trigger Giffords Shooting?,” blogger David Frum wrote, “After the Tucson shooting, there may be renewed pressure to control the weapons that committed the crime. But what about the drugs that may have aggravated the killer’s mental disease?”
This question, however, also has a political dimension. Illegal drugs have been traditionally viewed by the radical left as a weapon of war against the capitalist system, and the movement for drug legalization is mostly a project of the liberal-left.
In her “Declaration of a State of War,” Weather Underground terrorist Bernardine Dohrn had declared marijuana and other mind-altering drugs to be weapons in the revolution. She said, “We fight in many ways. Dope is one of our weapons. The laws against marijuana mean that millions of us are outlaws long before we actually split. Guns and grass are united in the youth underground.”
Playboy founder Hugh Hefner was the early funder of the marijuana legalization movement, but funding over the last couple of decades has come from billionaires George Soros, University of Phoenix founder John Sperling, and Progressive Insurance executive Peter Lewis.
President Barack Obama is an acknowledged former user of marijuana, as well as cocaine, and promised the drug lobby that he would ease up on prosecutions of marijuana users.
It appears that Loughner’s arrest for possessing drug paraphernalia in 2007 was dropped from his record after he completed a court diversion program. Otherwise, this could have prevented him from buying a gun and carrying out the rampage.
One of Loughner’s friends is quoted by Mother Jones magazine as saying that he thought that Loughner had given up alcohol and marijuana during the fall of 2008, but that was before he was rejected for Army service on grounds of drug use. Reports of Loughner using drugs continued into his college days and, as late as last June, he was making outbursts and laughing out loud in class. Loughner’s former college instructor, Ben McGahee, recalled that he showed up to class with his face deeply red. “It was as if he was high on drugs,” he said. “He would sit there with a very red face just listening to his iPod and would make these strange mutterings every so often.”
A photograph of a smirking Jared Loughner, after he was taken into custody, seems to prove beyond doubt that he is seriously disturbed, as a result of prolonged drug use. He exhibited symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia.
Dr. Howard Osofsky, head of the Department of Psychiatry at the Louisiana State University Health Sciences Center, says, “People who use marijuana, and use it frequently and in high amounts, are more likely to develop mental illness.” The link between marijuana and mental illness is documented in the scholarly and academic work, “Marijuana and Madness.”
Loughner’s use of marijuana apparently began in high school. Caitie Parker, who attended Mountain View High School and Pima Community College along with Loughner, called him a pothead who was “quite liberal” and “left-wing.” He hated religion, listened to acid rock, and posted a link to an American flag-burning video.
Because of the evidence that Loughner was a pothead, and the evidence that marijuana abuse is linked to mental illness, the Soros-funded marijuana lobby is working overtime to try to draw media attention away from his addiction to the drug.
Interestingly, the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML) had attacked Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, who was seriously wounded in the shootings, for opposing decriminalization of marijuana.
Giffords had said, “There are serious public health costs associated with drug misuse, as well as larger economic and societal costs. For example, marijuana is often cited as a gateway drug that leads to the use of more dangerous narcotics. For these reasons, I do not support decriminalizing marijuana.”
Now she is fighting for her life because of bullets fired from the gun of a certified marijuana addict.
NORML admits that “…Loughner does sound like the kind of person who should not be smoking pot. It’s never a good idea for people with mental illness like schizophrenia to use cannabis.”
NORML took offense to comments posted on the liberal Huffington Post website from people commenting on one of the bizarre photographs of Loughner: “Looks like my neighbor’s kid. He wears long black rain coats, I’ve seen him strung out on the grass, carries a 357 magnum in hand outside of his house….walks with an attitude, rumors have it that he has been in court for drug possession.….don’t you love this world. Sad, sad and sad…another endorsement for the medical marijuana lobby I am sure.”
Alluding to increasing acceptance of the drug, under the guise of providing “medicine,” David Frum wrote, “The trend these days seems toward a more casual attitude and easier access to those drugs. Among the things we should be discussing in the aftermath of this horror is the accumulating evidence of those drugs’ potential contribution to making some dangerous people even more dangerous than they might otherwise have been.”
Looking at the evidence, he noted that while the connection between marijuana and schizophrenia is controversial and complicated, the “raw association is strong” because of evidence showing that:
• Schizophrenics are twice as likely to smoke marijuana as non-schizophrenics.
• People who smoke marijuana are twice as likely to develop schizophrenia as those who do not smoke.
He quoted some of the experts as saying that the evidence does suggest a direct link between pot and mental illness.
One website featured the comment: “Everyone who promotes marijuana as a good thing has blood on their hands. Jared Loughner displays symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia, which is a common health side effect of someone who abuses marijuana.”
Ironically, Arizona voters in November narrowly passed Proposition 203, making Arizona the 15th state to allow for the scam known as “medical marijuana.” This will have the effect of increasing distribution of the drug.
Remember that the Pentagon shooter from California was a “medical marijuana” patient but was obviously not helped by the drug being prescribed by a physician.
Governor Jan Brewer and her Democratic opponent in the November election, Terry Goddard, both opposed Proposition 203.
Mark A. de Bernardo wrote on The Daily Caller that funding for Proposition 203 “came largely from ubër-liberal billionaire George Soros and his pro-legalization pet organizations — long-time, broad-based marijuana legalization supporters.”
But he said that “medical marijuana” was a cover: “The real issue is not providing for terminally ill cancer patients, it is accommodating those who grow, sell, and use marijuana for ‘recreational’ purposes.”
One of those people was Arizona shooter Jared Loughner. The passage of Proposition 203 guarantees there will be more like him.
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Old 01-12-2011, 01:33 PM
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The fact that Loughner smoked pot had no more to do with this incidence or his mental illness than the fact that he owned a gun had anything to do with it.

Always, always remember, especially all you folks out there who supported legislation for the "medical dispensaries", any war that you wish to continue against marijuana must confront these "medical marijuana" dispensaries. The only reason the "medical marijuana" dispensaries exist is to sell marijuana to people to get high. That is the only reason. There is no other reason.

Always, always remember the way these "medical marijuana" dispensaries work. You get some pet doctor to give you a license to get stoned on some pretext, migraines, joint pain, nausea, whatever and you can buy as much pot as you want for as long as you want at black market prices from dope dealers who have the official connections to get themselves set up.

These same doctors are the ones who decide who has mental illness. You can't get "medical marijuana" to treat mental illness, but don't be suprised if that's coming. You can, after all, get drugs to treat mental illness. And meanwhile all the rest of the people out there pretending to be sick in order to get a license to get stoned are not causing any problems. For every doctor who says that pot causes mental illness, you got another one, maybe two or three, issuing a pot smoking license for people on the thinnest of pretexts. These are real doctors who have decided they have nothing to worry about, as far as they are concerned it is like issuing a permit to get aspirin.
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I agree with you Twoller.
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Old 01-13-2011, 03:54 AM
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In reflecting on the history of mass shootings, I am impressed by the number of shooters who were either (1) drug users and/or (2) were on probation for drug or other kinds of crimes. It seems as though almost every mass murderer or political assassin since Lee Harvey Oswald was either working with some law enforcement or intelligence agency or was on probation or parole.

Lee Harvey Oswald worked in the intelligence community and was an FBI and CIA informant. It is probable that his so called "defection" to the USSR was part of a intelligence program to groom people as malcontents and traitors in order to have them "defect" to the USSR in order to conduct espionage during the Cold War years.

I read an article about the school shootings that suddenly came into vogue in the 1989 time period and virtually all of those shooters were users of psycho pharmacological products. The infamous 1989 school shooter in Bakersfield or Stockton, I forget which, who unloaded on school kids with an AK 47 (at the height of the debate about the California Assault Weapons Law) was on drugs and had a history of drug use. (How convenient.)

There is an historic pattern in the passage of ever more draconian laws, especially gun control laws. There is usually a great controversy about one of these laws, and then some extraordinary outrage changes the public consciousness and puts the law over the top.

Assassinations of JFK, MLK and RFK put over the Gun Control Act of 1968. 1989 School shooting put over the California Assault Weapons law. 9/11 put over the so called 'Patriot Act" which was a revival of the old Clinton Anti-Terrorist Law from the 1990's.

Now we find out the Tuscon shooter had a criminal history, a history of law enforcement contacts and he was actually stopped by the cops on the day of the shooting. Immediately the County Sheriff comes out with politically motivated, pro-left rhetoric. (Will he be an expert witness for the defense?)


Was he alone nut or a carefully managed, manipulated "Manchurian Candidate" type nut? Is the Tuscon shooting another event designed by puppet masters to socially engineer us and shift the public consciousness to the left and soften us up for more restrictive laws? It certainly fits the pattern, but only time, and more facts, will tell.I think the jury is out.

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Old 01-13-2011, 10:33 AM
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There is an historic pattern in the passage of ever more draconian laws, especially gun control laws. There is usually a great controversy about one of these laws, and then some extraordinary outrage changes the public consciousness and puts the law over the top.

Assassinations of JFK, MLK and RFK put over the Gun Control Act of 1968. 1989 School shooting put over the California Assault Weapons law. 9/11 put over the so called 'Patriot Act" which was a revival of the old Clinton Anti-Terrorist Law from the 1990's.

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Was he alone nut or a carefully managed, manipulated "Manchurian Candidate" type nut? Is the Tuscon shooting another event designed by puppet masters to socially engineer us and shift the public consciousness to the left and soften us up for more restrictive laws? It certainly fits the pattern, but only time, and more facts, will tell.I think the jury is out.
I agree with your sensitivity to the anti-gun response to these assasinations. Clearly there are those out there who are opposed to gun ownership who wait for these incidents to occur and exploit them for furthering their agendas. But I don't think that these assassins are the subjects of any kind of direct psychological manipulation from any kind of formal body or operation. What I think is more likely going is that communities themselves are the target of manipulation and it is they who foment individuals to perform these acts. These individuals are provoked by sadistically minded communities who themselves are the subject of manipulation. It is popularly understood how individuals can be brainwashed, it is less explored how a similar process can be applied to groups of people. These people in turn can turn on individuals among themselves and apply a similar, less formal pressure, sometimes consciously, sometimes unconsciously. More and more these days, I think the process is becoming more and more conscious. People are becoming lower and more base in their civic motivations. I think what passes for immigration policy these days contributes to this and motivates it too.

Oswald, for example, is somebody who was well known for a long time by our government. He was a former US marine and a communist activist and defector and had probably been watched as a security matter in those days for a long time. But he was also somebody, as an activist, who was well known at some community level by both communists and anti-communists alike. Somewhere the attention he had at the community level intersected with the attention he had at the government level and he was applied to be framed as the assassin of JFK. I don't think the government was involved, but there were those in the community who applied what they knew from government connections in order to set him up. His job at the book warehouse, for example, was no accident.
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Here's a list of massacres:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spree_killer

As I go through it I see that quite a number of incidents are missing. For example the Scotland school shooting, the shooting of those little Amish school girls in Pennsylvania, Son of Sam, David Berkowitz, Angel Rescindez, the Mexican, Railroad killer. But here's even more by category:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ber_of_victims

So if homo sapiens isn't shooting he is stabbing and if he isn't stabbing he is poisoning like Jim Jones, Guyana and Marshall Applewhite, Hale Bop comet and Heavens Gate and if he AND she isn't doing that then THEY are massacring millions like the Czar of Russia and family by the Bolsheviks, or engaged in genocide like Stalin in Russia, Adolph Hitler - exterminating 6 Million Jews, or the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia, or Chairman Mao Zedong, China, or the Darfur, Sudan genocide and on and on.................

So it isn't a uniquely American fad. It is common to the species, inherent in the makeup.

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On the matter of gun control I have been an NRA member for over 50 years so I receive a magazine " American Hunter " as well as mail regularly and E-mails frequently. So I have been extremely well informed about the gun control advocates for many decades. The NRA is definitely gaining ground and suppressing the opponents and advocates of gun control.

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Drugs - marijuana, heroin, Peyote, cocaine, hemp, Khat, are flora, biological, plants that contain some alkaloids or other constituents that have some effect on humans in various ways. Coffee, tea, coca leaves, beetle nut, tobacco are stimulants to humans.

Locoweed is a name common to several species of plants that affect livestock and game, horses, cattle, sheep, deer, elk.

LSD and Methamphetamine are chemical concoctions along with several other manufactured products even including glue that is sniffed by teenagers.

Alcoholic beverages have been produced in one form or another for multiple millenia from just about everything, honey, grains, corn, apples, grapes, plums, cherries, fruits, vegetables; and that are "administered by ingesting " drinking/swallowing and even in the high Andes by the indigenous natives by enema using a deer antler drilled and hollowed.

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I really do not see anything complicated about understanding Jared Loughner. Media reports have very aptly described him as abnormal mentally.

Abnormal psychology is the branch of psychology that studies unusual patterns of behavior, emotion and thought, which may or may not be understood as precipitating a mental disorder.

There is a long history of attempts to understand and control behavior deemed to be aberrant or deviant (statistically, morally or in some other sense), and there is often cultural variation in the approach taken. The field of abnormal psychology identifies multiple different causes for different conditions, employing diverse theories from the general field of psychology and elsewhere, and much still hinges on what exactly is meant by "abnormal". There has traditionally been a divide between psychological and biological explanations, reflecting a philosophical dualism in regard to the mind body problem, as well as different approaches to the classification of mental disorders.

Clinical psychology is the applied field of psychology that seeks to assess, understand and treat psychological conditions in clinical practice. The theoretical field known as "abnormal psychology" may form a backdrop to such work, but clinical psychologists are nowadays unlikely to use the term "abnormal" in reference to their practice. Psychopathology is a similar term to abnormal psychology but has more of an implication of an underlying pathology (disease process), and as such is a term more commonly used in the medical specialty known as psychiatry.


I think it should be understood that Jared, even now, creeps out his guards as he just sits and stares with a smirk on his face. His behavior in college was so noticeable that is scared practically everyone.

Now the question arises; - if narcotics or hallucionogens were the culptit ? and I say no, not necesarily. They didn't send a "normal" person into a mental state of abnormality. The abnormality already existed and the effects of the mind altering substances exacerbated the condition.

We can further try to understand how the naturally occuring "elements" in plants growing in natural conditions affect the brain. Since I contend that humans are nothing more that a species of Hominidae - The Hominidae (anglicized hominids, also known as great apes), as the term is used here, form a taxonomic family, including four extant genera:

PathologyIntoxication with swainsonine has several kinds of effect.

Livestock that graze for several weeks on locoweed (and little else) develop a lysosomal storage disease similar to genetic mannosidosis.[17] Swainsonine inhibits a lysosomal enzyme, alpha-mannosidase.[18] This results in abnormal accumulation of the molecules normally processed by the enzyme, and this accumulation leads to vacuolation of most tissues. Vacuolation is most obvious in neurons and epithelial cells. The vacuolation resolves shortly after poisoning is discontinued, but if the vacuolation is so severe that it destroys cells, it may result in some neurologic damage that is irreversible and permanent.[17] The damage is highly varied.

In cattle at high altitude, complications of locoism can include congestive heart failure.[19]

In cattle, sheep, and goats, locoweed poisoning causes reproductive losses.

[edit] DiagnosisDiagnosis of clinical poisoning is generally made by documenting exposure, identifying the neurologic signs, and analyzing serum for alpha-mannosidase activity and swainsonine.[17]

In mule deer, clinical signs of locoism are similar to chronic wasting disease. Histological signs of vacuolation provide a differential diagnosis.[20]

Sub-clinical intoxication has been investigated in cattle grazing on Astragalus mollissimus. As the estimated intake of swainsonine increased, blood serum alpha-mannosidase activity and albumin decreased, and alkaline phosphatase and thyroid hormone increased.[21]

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