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Old 07-11-2011, 12:29 PM
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Default Flights home begin for illegal immigrants found in Arizona desert

Whats to stop them when they get a free ride home. If I visit Mexico will Mexico pay for my trip back? Ya, yet Mexico cries that we're such a cruel country. Mexico is our enemy, that's a fact!!!


Flights home begin for illegal immigrants found in Arizona desert
The eighth annual Mexican Interior Repatriation Program will feature one flight a day instead of two and is expected to cost the U.S. government about $10 million.
Under the voluntary program, non-criminal Mexican illegal immigrants caught by the Border Patrol in Arizona are offered free flights to Mexico City. From there, they are given bus passes to return to their hometowns.
The goal of the annual summer initiative is to prevent illegal immigrants from trying to cross the border again in the hopes of saving lives during the scorching summer months when hundreds die each year in Arizona.
“Without this program, many of these migrants would perish in the desert,” said Tom Homan, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s deputy executive assistant director.
The U.S. government has spent $85.8 million to fly more than 116,000 people home since the program began in 2004.
But there's no way to know if the program has achieved its goal of saving lives because there are no measures in place to evaluate it, found a July 2010 Government Accountability Office report.
The Border Patrol's Tucson and Yuma Sectors are the only ones conducting this program.
This year’s program will run for 80 days with the last flight leaving on Sept. 28. That’s the length the program has run for most years, but fewer than last year when it lasted 120 days.
Officials decided to offer one flight a day this year due to a significant decrease in apprehensions in the Border Patrol’s Tucson Sector. The fiscal year 2010 apprehensions were down by 57 percent from the 2004 figure, Border Patrol figures show.
The program is expected to cost the U.S. government between $9 - $11 million this year, Homan said. That’s less than the average yearly cost of the program and less than the $14.8 million spent in 2010.
Despite this program, Border Patrol rescue efforts and other live-saving programs run by non-governmental organizations, border deaths in Arizona have not decreased in the last decade in Arizona.
More than 2,100 illegal border crossers have been found dead in Arizona's desert in the last decade, with the yearly death toll hovering around 200 a year. The 249 bodies found in calender year 2010 were a record.
The tally this year is behind that record-setting pace. The 82 border deaths since Jan. 1 are the fewest at this date since 2003, when there were 79 border deaths through the date, the Arizona Daily Star's border-death database shows. Through July 5, 2010, there had been 124 bodies recovered.

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Old 07-11-2011, 12:41 PM
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I agree, the are our enemy!
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Old 07-11-2011, 07:39 PM
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I never wish anyone to die because it will happen one day.
My thoughts about those who perish in the desert is, perhaps they are too ignorant to live. Sorry, but I know not to walk down the free way.
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Old 07-11-2011, 08:57 PM
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How do we handle this problem? If we give them a bus ride, they can get off any time the bus stops and that may not be inside Mexico. But airplane rides are too expensive. How about if we catch them, they get a prison bus ride back, but if they turn themselves in voluntarily, then they get a plane ride. That's amnesty I can get behind. Turn yourself in and we don't lock you up for being in the country illegally.
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Old 07-12-2011, 04:31 AM
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How do we handle this problem? If we give them a bus ride, they can get off any time the bus stops and that may not be inside Mexico. But airplane rides are too expensive. How about if we catch them, they get a prison bus ride back, but if they turn themselves in voluntarily, then they get a plane ride. That's amnesty I can get behind. Turn yourself in and we don't lock you up for being in the country illegally.
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:51 AM
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Default Mexicans only.

This applies to Mexican nationals only, not OTM's.

Many crossers are from other countries.
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Old 07-12-2011, 06:04 AM
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I don't care where they are from.
THEY NEED TO GO.
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Old 07-12-2011, 09:08 AM
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This is a very practical concern that deserves some serious attention. So far the model of getting rid of illegal immigrants relies strictly on "self deportation". At the same time border enforcement is emphasized. The problem is that border enforcement must include policing traffic both ways. In other words, crossing an unofficial border out of the US is also against the law and if you are caught, then you are liable to prosecution and should be prosecuted.

There is no other solution to illegal immigration except border enforcement both ways accross the border and strict and aggressive policing against the simple presence of illegal immigrants.

So what do we do with them once we catch them? The first thing we should do is prosecute them for the crime of being here illegally. The next thing we do is throw them out. This is bound to be the most expensive part. You can't just turn them loose and tell them to go away, because they have to cross out of the US border legally to do it. There is also the risk that they might not actually leave. so, somehow, they are going to have to be shipped out. Actually, illegal Mexicans and Canadians are going to be the easiest part. They are right accross the border. Anybody else, like Africans, Asians, Europeans and the rest are going to be tough. Once illegals see that we are being serious, they may "discover" the resources to leave on their own, in which we can negotiate prosecution based on evidence of their intention to leave and supervise their exits by watching actual travel out of the country.

But for the rest, some kind of transportation is going to be necesssary and we need to confront the possibilities and the expenses involved.
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:59 AM
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I've said for many, many years now that Mexico's goal was to impact our judicial system to the point of breaking when dealing with Mexicans here illegally. That country is not the only one that would like to see that happen, and why not when we see all the remittances being sent back not only to Mexico but many other countries. That's where the UN steps in and starts dictating what the US can and can not do.

Our immigration problems are not just our southern and northern borders, we have a border that is 360 degrees abound this country and that should also include Alaska and Hawaii because from those destinations no one checks for visas. Our interior is where we need to do some real cleaning also. But this won't happen until this whole attitude of "they are just hard working people that want to have a better life" is turned around.

The cost and impact of this invasion and over liberal visa system is just starting to become apparent. But there is a breaking point where either we won't be able to financially defend ourselves or physically defend ourselves. Remember, many, if not most, of those Mexicans will fight (physically) against the US in favor of Mexico or in some cases and other country that is against the US. That's the big problem, they not only are not loyal, they actually hate the US. And we have no one to blame for this but ourselves and ignoring the many years of Chicano Studies/MECha in our schools.

The largest effort this country can to is to start requiring E-Verify in EVERY STATE AND EVERY CITY. By that I mean every person who in either now working or applies for work is required to prove they are legally eligible to work, and to cut back by at least 75% all entitlements and require that the remaining receiving them prove they are legally in the country and not on a visa.

We need to do some very deep changes to our system and that's not going to happen with the far left in charge.
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We need to do some very deep changes to our system and that's not going to happen with the far left in charge.
I have thought about the far left and the far right. I have decided that the far part is the problem.
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