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Old 03-13-2010, 09:55 AM
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Default A riddle for the viewers !

Friends, I will ask if any of you can tell me the meaning of "Tiyospaye".

We will then take it from there !
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Old 03-13-2010, 10:04 AM
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A band or extended family group?
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Old 03-13-2010, 11:37 AM
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A Tiyospaye is an extended family, Indigenous People united by choice rather than by ... Tiyospaye governence is akin to, although somewhat different from, ...
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Sunkmanitu tanka Isnala Najin Tiyospaye

Naca: Sunkmanitu tanka Isnala Najin (a.k.a. Charlie "Wolf" Smoke)

Sunkmanitu tanka (Wolf) is the leader and spokesperson for this Tiyospaye.

A Tiyospaye is an extended family, Indigenous People united by choice rather than by blood or colonial delineation.

Membership can be determined by heredity, though is not neccesarily restricted to such lineage. Tiyospaye governence is akin to, although somewhat different from, Clanship systems. The Tiyospaye is the legal governing body for various sovereign Indigenous Nations, in both domestic and national issues.

The Sunkmanitu tanka Isnala Najin Tiyospaye is a totally independant entity. Blood lineage of the original members consists of Lakota, Nakota, Mohawk, and Cree heritage. This Tiyospaye however, is completely autonomous; although, governence is of Titonwan Lakota social precepts. Along with the Lakota structure though, this Tiyospaye refers to Kuswenta (the Two Row Wampum Belt) as how to relate to non-Indigenous peoples/governments. We further refer to the Ayonwatha (Hiawatha) Belt as how to relate to other Indigenous peoples/territories/governments.

In the spirit of Tasunke Witko, and in direct accordance to the teaching of the Two Row Wampum, we recognize that this land, commonly refered to as "the Americas" (Turtle Island) was given to the Red Race by the Great Creator. (The Red Race being the Indigenous Peoples of Turtle Island.) Out of respect for all things, as we have been instructed by Pte San Win, we show respect and compassion for all non-Indigenous peoples who may travel to our land. In return though, we demand such respect from them all, in turn! We do not seek to dictate or interfere in their destiny, and we expect them to live likewise.

In direct accordance to the Divine teachings of Pte San Win, and the Ayonwatha Belt, we recognize as equals and relatives, all Indigenous People on Turtle Island. We actively seek to envelope our people with true Peace, and we furthermore actively seek to join our Tiyospaye with all Indigenous communities in true Peace and fellowship. We acknowledge the truth and meaning of the ancient Lakota story explaining the common roots, and prophesized uniting of the Red Race, the Indigenous Peoples of Turtle Island.
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Old 03-14-2010, 06:33 AM
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Default Perfect !

Yes indeed those are the words of the Lakota native American Indians in South Dakota and the invitation from the St. Josephs Indian School in Chamberlain to join the extended family !!!

Now, take the false propaganda spouted by the Mexican reconquista invaders claiming title to the mythological Aztlan located mythological in California, Nevada, Arizona. Texas, and parts of Utah and Colorado. Claiming it as the land of ancestors !!! And aspiring to re-take it.

The Aztecs and Uto-Aztecan people spoke native Nahuatl up to the Spanish arrival in 1519 and were Mesoamerican Indians. The Mesoamerican Indians were located around present day Mexico City.

The native American indigenous Indian tribes of the US South West are well know, well documented and well recognized. And they were not Mesoamerican natives.

In one video posted many times over the past decade one lunatic college professor is seen saying that the Aztlan claim dates back 40,000 years. The Asians didn't cross the Bering land bridge until the approximate period 12,000 years ago at the time of the ice age !!!

As usual the Mexican reconquistas are a rather disreputable gang of con artists and grifters.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahuatl

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Old 03-14-2010, 07:58 AM
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Well, check this load of fertilizer out, first reaction is that it comes from those of the "Mexica Nation" crowd of racist knuckle draggers:

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Aztlan Underground Lyrics

Decolonize


Aug's on the scene with a vengeance
No man or law can end this
Power, in a true sense of the word
Now it's time that my people be heard
Some feel this oppression no longer exists
Well here's something they missed
Self d means self determination
To put a stop to colonization
We begin with a historical analysis
To illustrate a mexican paralysis
See mexico's been occupied since 1848
Which left the mexicano at a constant 2nd rate
Now learn the word called colonization
Stranger in your own land under exploitation
This is the state of the indigena today

Under the oppression of the settlers way (2x)

We didn't cross the borders, the borders crossed us! (3x)
Yet the settler nation lives in disgust!
The american dream only for some
Play the role and forget where you came from
Now check it, this is their reality
And just because its wasp holds no validity
Wasp-white anglo saxon protestant
The frame of mind that keeps our oppression constant
You try to be white and its very respectable
But be xicano and its highly unacceptable
Then we're termed hispanic as if we were from spain
Trying to insert us in the american game
And we're called wetbacks like we've never been here
When our existence on this continent is thousands of years
This is the state of the indigena today

Under the oppression of the settlers way (2x)

We didn't cross the borders, the borders crossed us (3x)
Yet the settler nation lives in disgust * repeat
To the earth, to the air, to the fire, and to the water....
The eagle and condor have met
We must realize
Our connection to this land
Till a hopi and a mexica can really understand
That invaders divided indigenous people
Under english, french, or spanish it make us all feeble
Unable to recognize each other
From xicano to lakota all sisters and brothers
In the spirit of pontiac, all the red keepers of the earth mother
From the top of alaska to the tip of south america
Abya yala, anahuak, turtle island
506 years of indigenous resistance
The prophecies are coming true
The redemption of the red people has come!
The 6th sun now arises
The 7th fire has arrived
Cihuatl is reclaiming
We have returned to aztlan
We have returned to aztlan!
We didn't cross the borders, the borders crossed us (3x)
Yet the settler nation lives in disgust!
Get the fuck out, get the fuck out, get the fuck , fuck, fuck out
Get the fuck out
Wasichu eater of the fat waster of earth mother
And people
Colonizer of aztlan and the world
Get the fuck out!

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Old 03-14-2010, 08:05 AM
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Iroquois Creation Myth, 1816

Many Indian peoples had and still have stories of creation that explain how they came to be and to live in their homelands. These narratives offer a glimpse into the belief systems present before Europeans entered North America. Many northeastern Indian peoples share a legend of how the world was created on the back of a giant sea turtle (some still refer to North America as a “turtle island”). While there are many versions of the tradition, the following selection is from the Iroquois Indians of New York State. Anthropologists collected and transcribed most versions of the Iroquois creation myth in the late-nineteenth and early-twentieth centuries. However, John Norton, son of Scottish and Cherokee parents and adopted by the Mohawks, recorded this version, one of the earliest, in 1816. Norton traveled widely in the eastern woodlands, playing an important role in the life of the Mohawks in the early-nineteenth century.


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The Aztecs and Uto-Aztecan people spoke native Nahuatl up to the Spanish arrival in 1519 and were Mesoamerican Indians. The Mesoamerican Indians were located around present day Mexico City.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahuatl
Language is learned, genes are inherited. A common language is not an indication of common ancestry, nor is mutual unintelligibility an indication of genetic distance.

The Uto Aztecan Languages from what is now the Western United States to What is now southern Mexico. To confuse Nahuatl as the Uto Aztecan language is like saying that English is the Indo European Language, which is wrong.

Something to be painfully reminded of the next time you need some sado masochistic customer dis - service and are connected with an incomprehensible "Steve" who is speaking from India.

As well, I'm reminded of the goofy claim that since there is a place name in the southwest US of "Aztec", it is proof that Aztlan was in the Southwest United States, or the even goofier notion that since "Michigan" sounds like "Michoacan", the Aztec Empire extended into Canada.

[Aztec ruins National Monument] http://www.americansouthwest.net/new..._monument.html

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Spoken throughout the western US and Mexico, the Uto-Aztecan languages include:

# Northern Uto-Aztecan Languages

# Numic Languages


# Central Numic Languages

# Comanche
# Panamint
# Shoshone
# Southern Numic Languages
# Chemehuevi
# Kawaiisu
# Southern Paiute (Ute)
# Western Numic Languages
# Mono
# Northern Paiute (Bannock)

# Takic Languages

# Cupan Languages


# Cahuilla
# Cupeno
# Juaneno
# Luiseno
# Serran Languages
# Kitanemuk
# Serrano
# Gabrielino
# Tataviam
# Hopi
# Tubatulabal

# Southern Uto-Aztecan Languages

# Aztecan Languages

# Nahuatl
# Pipil
# Pochutec
# Taracahitic Languages
# Guarijio
# Mayo
# Opata
# Tarahumara
# Yaqui
# Tepiman Languages
# Pima Bajo
# Tepehuan
# Tohono O'odham
# Corachol Languages
# Cora
# Huichol
# Tubar


http://www.native-languages.org/famuto.htm
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Yes indeed those are the words of the Lakota native American Indians in South Dakota and the invitation from the St. Josephs Indian School in Chamberlain to join the extended family !!!

Now, take the false propaganda spouted by the Mexican reconquista invaders claiming title to the mythological Aztlan located mythological in California, Nevada, Arizona. Texas, and parts of Utah and Colorado. Claiming it as the land of ancestors !!! And aspiring to re-take it.

The Aztecs and Uto-Aztecan people spoke native Nahuatl up to the Spanish arrival in 1519 and were Mesoamerican Indians. The Mesoamerican Indians were located around present day Mexico City.

The native American indigenous Indian tribes of the US South West are well know, well documented and well recognized. And they were not Mesoamerican natives.

In one video posted many times over the past decade one lunatic college professor is seen saying that the Aztlan claim dates back 40,000 years. The Asians didn't cross the Bering land bridge until the approximate period 12,000 years ago at the time of the ice age !!!

As usual the Mexican reconquistas are a rather disreputable gang of con artists and grifters.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahuatl
The 40,000 year speech. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIW-B...layer_embedded
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