Teaching the "white privilidge" Premise

[Jeanfromfillmore]

Originally Posted by Twoller

You are seriously out of touch with the universities. I wonder if you have ever attended a university. Universities are always and always have been a source of foment and intellectual confrontation. This is the way it must be. It's mostly because universities are filled with young and impressionable adults who are itching to show they are special, different and to get attention. We hope that universities will give us the chance to spot the brightest with the most potential. Meanwhile, some of them go on to become college professors, which is a worthy position that follows closely on the passions of university students. What we see here is a natural consequence.

The best way of confronting bad information in universities is with good information, it is not to give them your attention, especially if you yourself are as weak on the subject as they are. If you don't like the universities teaching evolution and want an equal audience for creation theory, you are not going to get an audience unless they are as intellectually weak as you are. But if you are, then it's not going to attract the attention of the rest of us who know better than both you or your intellectual opponents in some soft headed university.

Thirty years ago was the eighties, but even further back in the sixties it was even worse. But some of the confrontation was justified in the sixties and did a lot to advance universities to standards that everyone could agree to. Free speech on campus, more opportunities for women in faculty, minority studies. These are all good things, subject to corruption and misapplication like anything that goes on in any institution.

The best way to confront problems in any institution of higher learning is to not stoop to the level of people doing the damage. Always assume a higher tone and stick to the subject which presumes to be addressed. Universities function by being places of intellectual discipline and insisting on it is always the best way to confront things like we see in the above article. And this is all at Sacramento State University, not exactly an intellectual center by anyone's standards.

You're full of $HIT.

[PochoPatriot]

Originally Posted by Jeanfromfillmore

You're full of $HIT.

Ditto!

[ilbegone]

They say that whites are afraid to talk about race.

But, stepping between the landmines, it needs to be done.

What is the difference between the real Movimiento Estudial Chicano de Aztlan and the hypothetical Skinhead Student Movement for an Aryan American Homeland?

Absolutely nothing. Yet the first is encouraged by "educators" and various goverment employees and explained away as "cultural pride", while the second would be universally condemned as being racist - but a white skinhead race "club" in university couldn't be any more racist than the race obsessed university "club" MECHA.

During the Chicano walkouts in 1968, the 50% graduation rate of Latinos in the schools targeted by walkouts was blamed on the white school board. Forty years later, with those of the Chicano walk out mentality largely dictating the curriculum, the graduation rate for Latinos in those same schools is roughly the the same - about 50%.

So, over the last year or so the spin has been that, in spite of all the dollars thrown at education, white middle class Americans are unwilling to spend money to educate minorities.

Lately, the spin has turned to the half truth that "immigrant" parents don't realize they can confront the education system concerning their children's education.

It's total bullshit. It's obvious who the real racists are, and they need to be brought to task for their racism.

[Twoller]

Originally Posted by ilbegone

They say that whites are afraid to talk about race.

But, stepping between the landmines, it needs to be done.

What is the difference between the real Movimiento Estudial Chicano de Aztlan and the hypothetical Skinhead Student Movement for an Aryan American Homeland?

Absolutely nothing. Yet the first is encouraged by "educators" and various goverment employees and explained away as "cultural pride", while the second would be universally condemned as being racist - but a white skinhead race "club" in university couldn't be any more racist than the race obsessed university "club" MECHA.

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Sure, what is the real difference? None. Please try to understand. At one time white racism was very respectable on campus. At one time, white racism had intellectual respectability. Right, it's all skinheads now, but not too long ago it was guys in tweed. Really. It was white racism then, now it's non-white racism. Can't you see? It's the same people whipping up the same people on either side of the race boundary. But it's crap and shouldn't stand the light of day on a good university.

[Rim05]

I am so tired of race ruling every conversation. Illegal immigration has now changed to RACE. Seems to me we are losing the Illegal immigration because everyone connects it to race. There was a time when I will say the Black populaton was at the bottom or the end of every line of everything. Now they are (in the minds of some) still at those line ends but every Illegal of any color or origin wants to advance to the head of the line. I wonder how anyone believes we can still be the country we once were if we are all always fighting about race.
Black people cannot for get where they were say in 1920 and others want them to be there again. I must say I am against Illegal immigration by anyone and I do not place one race over nor below any other.

The Tea Party is beginning to appear to be more racist than I thought at first. I know a lot of you Tea Party people and I do not think of you as racists but you will have to distance your selves from those who have infiltrated you the same as the skin heads tried to do with the old SOS, we rejected them, all of us did.

[Don]

Originally Posted by Rim05

I am so tired of race ruling every conversation. Illegal immigration has now changed to RACE. Seems to me we are losing the Illegal immigration because everyone connects it to race. There was a time when I will say the Black populaton was at the bottom or the end of every line of everything. Now they are (in the minds of some) still at those line ends but every Illegal of any color or origin wants to advance to the head of the line. I wonder how anyone believes we can still be the country we once were if we are all always fighting about race.
Black people cannot for get where they were say in 1920 and others want them to be there again. I must say I am against Illegal immigration by anyone and I do not place one race over nor below any other.

The Tea Party is beginning to appear to be more racist than I thought at first. I know a lot of you Tea Party people and I do not think of you as racists but you will have to distance your selves from those who have infiltrated you the same as the skin heads tried to do with the old SOS, we rejected them, all of us did.

Race rules conversations because a race war of ultimate extermination has been waged against white people for more than half a century. The teaching of anti-white hatred in public schools is an integral part of this ongoing war. The blacks and browns understand that this is a race war. They openly say it. The only people who deny it, in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, are brow beaten, whites who are more afraid of being called "racists" than they are of being exterminated.

White children in minority controlled public schools are subject daily to racially motivated hate speech and physical violence. A white mother and business owner was interviewed and related that her decision to leave California was based, in part, on the fact that Mexicans at her daughter's public high school would not allow her white daughter to use the rest rooms. The girl had to come home during the school day to use the bathroom at home. I know people who personally experienced this kind of treatment from "minorities" in forcibly integrated public schools in the 1960's. That's why whites withdrew their children from rcially integrated schools in the South and why whites fled racially integrated inner cities in that era. It was because they didn't want their children to be beaten, attacked, denigrated and denied something as basic as access to school restrooms. Given the number of Mexicans I see urinating in public I understand why using rest rooms is not a big deal for them, but fore most whites using indoor plumbing is the norm. This is the tip of the ice berg.

Where is the outcry concerning brown and black racially motivated violence against white children? There is none. Whites are second class citizens and their children deserve to be hated, dispossessed and ultimately killed. Anyone who speaks up for white children will be denounced as a "racist." Black and Hispanic murderers can be defended, but their white victims are slienced by the gag rule that denounces any white affimation of equality as "racism." You cannot criticize non-white criminals and you can't defend white crime victims.

If non-white exterminationists will stand idley by while blacks and browns brutalize innocent white children, what the Hell do you think they have planned for you?

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by Don

Race rules conversations because a race war of ultimate extermination has been waged against white people for more than half a century. The teaching of anti-white hatred in public schools is an integral part of this ongoing war. The blacks and browns understand that this is a race war. They openly say it. The only people who deny it, in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, are brow beaten, whites who are more afraid of being called "racists" than they are of being exterminated.

White children in minority controlled public schools are subject daily to racially motivated hate speech and physical violence. A white mother and business owner was interviewed and related that her decision to leave California was based, in part, on the fact that Mexicans at her daughter's public high school would not allow her white daughter to use the rest rooms. The girl had to come home during the school day to use the bathroom at home. I know people who personally experienced this kind of treatment from "minorities" in forcibly integrated public schools in the 1960's. That's why whites withdrew their children from rcially integrated schools in the South and why whites fled racially integrated inner cities in that era. It was because they didn't want their children to be beaten, attacked, denigrated and denied something as basic as access to school restrooms. Given the number of Mexicans I see urinating in public I understand why using rest rooms is not a big deal for them, but fore most whites using indoor plumbing is the norm. This is the tip of the ice berg.

Where is the outcry concerning brown and black racially motivated violence against white children? There is none. Whites are second class citizens and their children deserve to be hated, dispossessed and ultimately killed. Anyone who speaks up for white children will be denounced as a "racist." Black and Hispanic murderers can be defended, but their white victims are slienced by the gag rule that denounces any white affimation of equality as "racism." You cannot criticize non-white criminals and you can't defend white crime victims.

If non-white exterminationists will stand idley by while blacks and browns brutalize innocent white children, what the Hell do you think they have planned for you?

Don, I think you are clearly Mr Wise's antitheseis. The way I see it is that there's people like him on one side, and you on the other side. Then there are a big majority that don't subscribe to either one of you. Both Wise's and your agendas are encouraging more polarization as opposed to ending the problem. Both of you have facts and evidence that support your agenda, and some are not in dispute. Where I believe you are failing is your response. the vast majority of people do not want a racially pointed war. You are not going to win over the minds of people to your side by trying to convince them that the only way to protect themselves is to pack up by virtue of their race and prepare for the inevitable epic battle. Even were it true, people will not see it because they don't want something like that come to pass. Packing up by race is a primal urge, and if the mindset that you subscribe to about mexicans and blacks being so acclimated towards that, why would whites be any better than them if they succumbed to it? That's a rhetorical question by the way
Mr Wise's propaganda should be addressed in a rational manner that the people who attended his event would be at least receptive to. It is my sincere belief that you would be booed off the stage within minutes using your strategy

[ilbegone]

Originally Posted by Twoller

Sure, what is the real difference? None. Please try to understand. At one time white racism was very respectable on campus. At one time, white racism had intellectual respectability. Right, it's all skinheads now, but not too long ago it was guys in tweed. Really. It was white racism then, now it's non-white racism. Can't you see? It's the same people whipping up the same people on either side of the race boundary. But it's crap and shouldn't stand the light of day on a good university.

You either didn't read or comprehend what I said, then said essentially the same thing I did.

The "guys in tweed", which I assume you mean "educators", like to be jerked off by people who tell them what they want to hear concerning their parallel universe interpretation of "social issues", even when they are really being used as clueless bitches and will be kicked to the curb when the agenda is accomplished.

[Dawes]

This was pushed in Elk Grove Unified under Bill Huyett (now a Superintendant in Berkeley), and DR. Odie Douglas (now an Assoc. superintendant in Lodi unified.

Both were fired from EGUSD, and both are just a few pushing the SEED program start by Peggy McIntosh. It is an anti-white (male) program for equity (social justice).

although Lodi Unified is about 12% Black, it has 11 out of 16 administrators that are Black and all socialist progressive friends of Dr. Douglas.

One school was told that the Valedictorian will not be speaking at promotion. There will be an audition for a speaker. The principal is a Dr. Douglas crony who just got a preliminary admin credential.

The local TEA Party needs to address it.

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Originally Posted by ilbegone

They say that whites are afraid to talk about race.

Remember-- what Holder said-- *whites lacked the C word*, now that's INSULTING...!?

But, stepping between the landmines, it needs to be done.

No-- Holder IS a bully, and enjoys playing the race card--- the race card *shuts up* the white person whom has been trained to be intimidated by it...!!

What is the difference between the real Movimiento Estudial Chicano de Aztlan and the hypothetical Skinhead Student Movement for an Aryan American Homeland?

Absolutely nothing. Yet the first is encouraged by "educators" and various goverment employees and explained away as "cultural pride", while the second would be universally condemned as being racist - but a white skinhead race "club" in university couldn't be any more racist than the race obsessed university "club" MECHA.

100% CORRECT AND EVERYONE ELSE KNOWS IT TOO!!

During the Chicano walkouts in 1968, the 50% graduation rate of Latinos in the schools targeted by walkouts was blamed on the white school board. Forty years later, with those of the Chicano walk out mentality largely dictating the curriculum, the graduation rate for Latinos in those same schools is roughly the the same - about 50%.

So, over the last year or so the spin has been that, in spite of all the dollars thrown at education, white middle class Americans are unwilling to spend money to educate minorities.

Lately, the spin has turned to the half truth that "immigrant" parents don't realize they can confront the education system concerning their children's education.

It's total bullshit. It's obvious who the real racists are, and they need to be brought to task for their racism.

Where IS our courage...??