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Old 05-09-2011, 02:29 AM
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The 1890 owner of the SS # was known. The mischief goes a lot deeper, including cutting numbers off of a rubber stamp, modifying them and using it to counterfeit Obama's data.

The details are very compelling and the video has to be seen to fully understand just how diabolical and criminal the matter is. It's worse than the birth certificate.
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Old 05-10-2011, 03:51 AM
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Subject: Well, here it is .... surprise, surprise:


OK, so I’m thinking that our President has come out with a birth certificate this week. If you notice it said Barack Obama.

I’m not the smartest guy around but if you were born as Barry Soetoro and later in life changed your name to
Barack Obama how can your birth certificate have the name on it that you made up later in life?

You think the birth certificate was made up?

If POW’s in WWII can make up phony documents in prison camps for use after their escape do you
think in 2011 with all of our marvelous technology a phony birth certificates can be made up??
I’m just wondering……………

Well, here it is at last........surprise, surprise.........
Lolo Soetoro, Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro, baby Maya Soetoro, and 9 year old Barry Soetoro.


This registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiskus Assisi school in
Jakarta, Indonesia, shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name
Barry Soetoro made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro.


Name: Barry Soetoro
Religion: Islam
Nationality: Indonesian


How did this little INDONESIAN Muslim child - Barry Soetoro, (A.K.A. Barack Obama) get around
the issue of nationality to become President of the United States of America ?


PART 2:


In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's qualifications for the presidency, the group
"Americans for Freedom of Information" has released copies of President Obama's college
transcripts from Occidental College ..


The transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a
foreign student from Indonesia while an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California . The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify for this scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.


This document provides the smoking gun that many of Obama's detractors have been seeking -
that he is NOT a natural-born citizen of the United States - necessary to be President of these
United States . Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya , here we see that there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship..


Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation
of Obama's campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records.


Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still on-going but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused comment on this matter.


LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS - THE MEDIA WON'T!
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Old 05-10-2011, 05:48 PM
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I don't have the time to watch the video now, will do later.

Is there a name attached to the Social Security issued in Connecticut to a Man born in 1890?

How was Obama's SSN acquired, and can the above allegation be unquestionably tied to Obama?
If there was a video on that site it isn't there any more. Personally I think this is crackpot stuff and this issue died when Obama released the long form COLB. Of course there will be always be those who'll question it no matter what. I would have been considered a "birther" myself at one time, but it pays to keep an open mind, and I no longer care about any of this. There are much more important reasons to make Obama a one-term president right now.
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Old 05-11-2011, 03:26 AM
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Default Try again.

Just went back and checked the site. The video is still there.

Susan Daniels explains Obama's social security number.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/sus...ut-applicants/


* Addendum:

I clicked on the link here and it works for me. It is active.

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Old 05-11-2011, 05:18 AM
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Just went back and checked the site. The video is still there.

Susan Daniels explains Obama's social security number.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/sus...ut-applicants/


* Addendum:

I clicked on the link here and it works for me. It is active.
I just tried again and the video was working, so I listened to all but about the last five minutes of it. As far as I'm concerned those people have no credibility, and particularly when they said they're not convinced that Osama Bin Laden is really dead. I also find it rather curious that this social security business has never come up until just recently. These conspiracy freaks need to give it a rest already.
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Old 05-11-2011, 10:30 AM
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Default Old news.

LAPHIL:

I have heard about this social security number fiasco for a very long time. It has been around.

Based on my information I am inclined to believe that she does have something solid.

I have followed this very assiduously from it's inception and from numerous sources.

I never believed Obama was born in Kenya. I did believe that the Kenyan birth certificate was counterfeit, and it was. Now there is compelling evidence that Obama's just released birth certificate is also a phony manufactured copy.

Further new information that I have received in the past couple of days indicates that Obama attended Occidental College on a student grant/ loan to Barry Soetero, an Indonesian exchange student. And that Obama may have never re-established his American citizenship after being adopted by Soetero.

I completely understand your skepticism. There is so much stuff flying around that it is difficult to sift out the facts.
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Old 05-14-2011, 04:02 AM
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Looking worse and worse for Obama. His most recent birth certificate has forensically been declared a counterfeit !

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Web expert: Obama certificate
falls short in authenticity
Cites images sharing space, anomalous for typed pages
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Editor's note: Jerome Corsi's "Where's the Birth Certificate? The Case That Barack Obama Is Not Eligible to Be President" is available today for immediate shipping, autographed by the author, exclusively by the WND Superstore.

HONOLULU, Hawaii – A Web expert who has built and run Internet and networking companies says the image the White House released as Barack Obama's "Certificate of Live Birth" essentially fails the authenticity test and that the image was more "assembled" than copied from an original.

That's the conclusion of Karl Denninger, whose resume includes work as CEO of MCSNet, a Chicago networking and Internet company; time with D&D Software/Macro Computer Solutions; work as a programming team leader for network software; and service in network engineering with ratings as a Unix System administrator.

Denninger's work follows on the opinion from another analyst, Ivan Zatkovich of Tampa-based eComp Consultants, which consults on intellectual property for telecommunications, Web publishing and e-commerce. He also has provided services for corporations such as McGraw-Hill, Houghton-Mifflin, Citicorp and Amazon.com.

Zatkovich, who has 28 years experience in computer science and document management and for more than 10 years has been an expert witness in federal court in both criminal and civil litigation, told WND the White House image "has specific content extracted from that base layer and enhanced."


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The Case That Barack Obama Is Not Eligible to Be President".

Zatkovich said, "This was done through an explicit operation to edit and/or enhance the printing in the document. There is no ambiguity here. There was an explicit action by a person to modify the document. ... Mostly like to enhance the legibility, but still an explicit action nonetheless."

He explained that his analysis was similar to that routinely done on evidentiary documents for cell phones and computers in cases involving child porn, fraud and murder cases.

"The content clearly indicates that the document was knowingly and explicitly edited and modified before it was placed on the web," he said.

Now Denninger has posted a series of reports online, including on YouTube, where he explains his concerns, which focus around the lettering as it appears on the document that reportedly is a photocopy on green "safety paper" of the original record in Hawaii.

He explains that the type on the birth document show evidence of "kerning," the squeezing of letters into a line so that they intrude into adjacent letter spaces. Kerning is routine, since the advent of word processors and computers, but impossible with a typewriter.




Denninger explains that in the image above, of the name of the hospital, the "a" and the "p" share vertical space on the line.

"This process, of course, requires that you know what the next letter is. With a computer this is pretty easy, since the computer can retroactively go back and adjust, and it also can typeset the current letter with the knowledge of what the previous one was," he reported. "A typewriter, on the other hand, is a mechanical device. It does not know what the next letter is that you will type, nor does it know what the last letter was that you typed. It thus has a typeface that always leaves physical space between the boundary of each character."

To those who argue that some sort of physical condition – such as a malfunctioning typewriter carriage – could have caused what appears to be kerning, he says the document doesn't support that explanation.

Further, he says, another scan of the document, done by the Associated Press, produced an image with critical differences from what document the White House released. For example, he said the White House image's background isn't consistent.

"Somebody took two images, the safety paper image as a background, and laid this other document on top of it. This is not a scan, this is assembled from two, or more than two documents, that were put together by computerized means," he said.

His full explanation is on video:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=295189


"To refute this point you must come up with a typewriter that contains a flux capacitor and thus is capable of accurately predicting the future," he said. "This document has been assembled by somebody on a computer."

He contends "there's only one way we're going to get the truth – a forensic document examiner is going to have to go look at the certificate and authenticate it. The real one – not a printout."

Denninger, who says he voted for Obama, also talked about the typewriter characters' alignment. The B from Barack and the K from Kapiolani line up vertically, but the line then goes through the middle of the M in Male, he said.

He said the only explanation would be that someone typed "Male" after filling out the rest of the document, and then took the paper out and reinserted it. That, he concluded, is illogical.

"Draw your own conclusions, but what I see here is a document that was not put into a typewriter and typed in one operation. Has this proved somebody tampered with it? Not necessarily. But it's another piece of the puzzle."

He also noted the scanned document from the White House has no "chromatic artifacts," as one would expect in a color scan. Chromatic artifacts, however, show up in the AP scan of the same document, and their absence in the White House release document shows "is not an unaltered color scan."

He also wondered why the typist had not used tab stops, as a clerk typing many forms probably would.

"We're talking about probabilities," he told WND. "When you look at a handful of layers, that's not proof … but it's more evidence."

The White House had trumpeted the release of the document, calling it "proof positive" Obama was born in Hawaii, as if that would answer all of the questions about his presidential eligibility. But who contend the country's founders understood a "natural born Citizen" to be a person born of two American parents say the document actually proves Obama's ineligibility.

Barack Obama Sr., who is listed as the father, was not a U.S. citizen.

The president himself even seemed to acknowledge the relevance of parental citizenship when he co-sponsored a resolution to address Sen. John McCain's presidential eligibility that implied a "natural born Citizen" must be born to "American citizen" parents.

Hawaii officials say they have Obama's original birth certificate and made copies for the president. One of the copies then was scanned and posted on the White House website.
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I heard that the reason he does not reveal his true certificate is that it states muslim as his religion.....?!!?
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I heard that the reason he does not reveal his true certificate is that it states muslim as his religion.....?!!?
I don't think a birth certificate even states religion. How could a newborn have a religion?
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Old 05-19-2011, 05:00 AM
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A QUESTION OF ELIGIBILITY

The dead infant and the birth-certificate mystery
Researcher who suspects forgery finds possible reason for Obama registration number

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Posted: May 17, 2011
8:28 pm Eastern


By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2011 WorldNetDaily





Sunahara grave marker at Miliani Memorial Gardens in Waipahu, Hawaii (Courtesy My Very Own Point of View)

NEW YORK – Amid questions about the authenticity of Obama's posted birth records raised by the registration number, a researcher has discovered a possible explanation.

The Post and Email blog, which has focused on the Obama eligibility controversy, features a report by an unnamed researcher who discovered the record of a girl born the same day as the president who died a day later that could have been the source of Obama's birth certificate.

The find is significant because of questions about the plausibility of the registration number indicated on the images of short-form and long-form birth certificates for the president posted on the Internet.

As WND reported, the numbers on the published Hawaii birth certificates of twins Susan and Gretchen Nordyke are lower than the number given Obama, even though the president's birth certificate was accepted by the registrar general and stamped with a certificate number three days earlier. Further, as WND reported yesterday, an article by the man who was Hawaii's registrar general at the time Obama was born confirmed birth certificates were numbered immediately upon acceptance by the registrar general.

Jerome Corsi's new book, "Where's the Birth Certificate?", is now available for immediate shipping, autographed by the author, only from the WND Superstore

The researcher found documentation for Virginia Sunahara's birth on the morning of Aug. 4, 1961, at Wahiawa General Hospital in Wahiawa, Oahu. She was the daughter of Hawaii-born Tomio Sunahara, a postal clerk of Japanese ancestry who fought for the U.S. in World War II, and his wife, Clara.

The infant developed complications and most likely was transferred to Kapi'olani Women and Children's Medical Center in Honolulu, although the hospital could have been Queens Medical Center. She died on Aug. 5, 1961.

(Story continues below)




WND contacted Virginia's mother Clara, 83, who is living in Wahiawa on Oahu.

Clara told WND by telephone she did not have Virginia's birth certificate and she was not interested in applying to the Hawaii Department of Health to see what birth records might be on file regarding her daughter.

The researchers reported that newly born Virginia Sunahara was transferred to a Honolulu hospital from Wahiawa General Hospital because she was having trouble breathing. The Honolulu hospitals were considered to have better equipment to deal with neonatal birth complications.

Virginia Sunahara's vital records have been located in the Hawaii birth and death records, as shown here:


Hawaii Department of Health Birth Index, Honolulu, Hawaii



And here:


Hawaii Department of Health Death Index, Honolulu, Hawaii



No birth announcement appeared for Virginia Sunahara in either Honolulu newspaper.

A death announcement for the girl, under the name of her father, Tomio Sunahara, appeared in the Honolulu Advertiser on Aug. 8, 1961, and in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin on Aug. 14, 1961.

The researchers who discovered Virginia Sunahara's birth record speculated that at the time of her death, her parents had not yet selected her name.

The timing of the newspaper death notice may have resulted from the fact that Hawaii law requires the registration of a death within three days and the registration of a birth within seven days.

The researchers further speculated that by the time the birth certificate was submitted by the hospital to the local registrar at the Hawaii Department of Health, Clara and Tomio had decided on the name Virginia, and the Department of Health updated its records accordingly.

This would explain why the newspaper death announcements listed the name as Tomiyo Sunahara, while the official Hawaii death records list the child's name as Virginia.

With an Aug. 4, 1961, birthdate, it's possible Virginia Sunahara's birth registration was filed as late as Aug. 11, 1961 – the same day the Nordyke twins' birth certificates were filed by Kapi'olani hospital with the Hawaii Department of Health local registrar and registrar general.

Susan Nordyke, the twin born first, received birth certificate number 10637; Gretchen Nordyke, the second, received number 10638.

Barack Obama's birth certificate was issued the number 10641, even though it was registered three days before the Nordykes' certificates.

However, if the birth certificate number 10641 was first assigned to Virginia Sunahara, the apparent conflict could be explained.

Is it possible that if Obama's birth records were forged, the perpetrator used Virginia Sunahara's birth certificate number, knowing the girl was long dead and the family was unlikely to know or complain?

Virginia Sunahara was initially buried Sept. 28, 1961, at the National Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific, also known as the Punchbowl, at 2177 Puowaina Drive in Honolulu, in Section U Site 966-F.

Her father died March 26, 1968, and Virginia was disinterred and re-buried alongside her father's cremated remains at Mililani Memorial Park in Waipahu in October 1968.


http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=300201


Read more: The dead infant and the birth-certificate mystery http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=300201#ixzz1Mnq3z3Jy
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