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Old 08-30-2013, 03:15 PM
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We can ring the alarm bell, but is anyone listening? How many times do things need to be told before someone really starts listening? I hope someone is listening.
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Old 12-16-2013, 11:13 AM
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I need help with this:

Last night an ad aired on prime time with from this non-profit, and it was so blatantly geared toward influencing the immigration debate that a blind/deaf person could have perceived it. This corporation is a declared non-profit:

http://calendow.org/about/overview.aspx

The rules of a California and a federally chartered non-profit are:

https://www.ftb.ca.gov/businesses/Ex...s.shtml#d23701

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No part of the net earnings of which inures to the benefit of any private shareholder.
No substantial part of the activities of which is carrying on propaganda or otherwise attempting to influence legislation (except as otherwise provided in Section 23704.5) and which does not participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distribution of statements), any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office.
Dedication of assets which requires that in the event of dissolution of an organization, or the impossibility of performing the specific organizational purposes, the assets would continue to be devoted to exempt purposes.
Their own charter prohibits same:

http://calendow.org/about/governance...-incorporation

At this timeI need as many people as we can muster to lodge a complaint with the Franchise tax board at this number:

800-540-3453

Just tell them you want to make a complaint about this tax exempt charitable corporation that is chartered in California using assets to spread political propaganda to influence immigration reform. Give them this information about the corporation:

The California Endowment
Corporation number C1930013
Founder's names are Robert K Ross MD, and Celia Lombard

The complaint specifics would be that they are using tax exempt funds to purchase Television, Billboard, and Bus Stop printed media to involve themselves in the immigration reform debate. The ads are clearly aimed to influence the public's perception about undocumented ( a propaganda term in itself) persons as opposed to healthcare concerns. State that this is a violation of their tax exempt status and that their charter should be investigated and they should be fined and have their tax exempt status suspended.

We need a lot of people to call to get the interest of the fraud unit, and to do it before the Endowment spends more money spreading propaganda.

Please make the call. I wasn't on hold at all. It happened quickly, and there was no resistance at all. You can request anonymity, but I gave my contact info and asked for any updates.

Your loyal Ayatollah asking
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Old 12-17-2013, 07:33 PM
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I will be calling tomorrow.
Thank you for this. This is a very constructive and productive activity for us.
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Old 12-19-2013, 10:09 PM
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Hi Ayatollah,
I called the Franchise tax board a couple of times yesterday and today, and they told me at the number that you provided that they don't take complaints. They then referred me to a department that handles Tax exempt organization, and they directed me to "advocate services" that will send send the complaint to the Franchise tax board. They told me that I have to do this through "advocate services."

They're called: Executive and advocate services.

My contact is Shelly Clark.
Phone: 916-845-6316
Fax: 916-855-5799

They said that we would need to send or fax a written discription of the violation as well as documentation of the advertisement. She would then send it to the Franchise tax board for them to investigate.

The address is: PO box, 157 Rancho Cordova, CA 95741-0157

This is the information that I got. I don't know if it is different than what you found out.

If you can package a complaint and images of the advertisement ,I'll send in a complaint along with yours.

Regards,
Greg
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Old 12-20-2013, 07:10 AM
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Hi Ayatollah,
I called the Franchise tax board a couple of times yesterday and today, and they told me at the number that you provided that they don't take complaints. They then referred me to a department that handles Tax exempt organization, and they directed me to "advocate services" that will send send the complaint to the Franchise tax board. They told me that I have to do this through "advocate services."

They're called: Executive and advocate services.

My contact is Shelly Clark.
Phone: 916-845-6316
Fax: 916-855-5799

They said that we would need to send or fax a written discription of the violation as well as documentation of the advertisement. She would then send it to the Franchise tax board for them to investigate.

The address is: PO box, 157 Rancho Cordova, CA 95741-0157

This is the information that I got. I don't know if it is different than what you found out.

If you can package a complaint and images of the advertisement ,I'll send in a complaint along with yours.

Regards,
Greg
It's not at all unusual for the intake center to log in an initial complaint and re-direct it after they find the proper agency. This tells me that a few other people may have called and that's what they're doing.

I'll get some more pics of the big billboards, but the television commercials are pretty hard to document. Another one of them ran last evening around 10:00 pm.
Anyone out there have recording capabilities to document one of these commercials on TV?
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:21 PM
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Do you think I was directed to the right department ?

What do you suggest I do?


Where did you file your complaint?

I called twice to the number that you provided, and both call takers re directed me.
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Old 12-21-2013, 07:35 AM
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Do you think I was directed to the right department ?

What do you suggest I do?


Where did you file your complaint?

I called twice to the number that you provided, and both call takers re directed me.
Greg, I'm headed over there on Monday. I'm going to hand deliver a complaint, and ask to speak with a representative of that department directly. I'lll follow up here with new information.

Thanks for taking an interest
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Old 12-22-2013, 10:21 AM
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Anyone out there have recording capabilities to document one of these commercials on TV?
Get a Haupphauge HD PVR http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...auppauge%20PVR and record to rewritable disk, then edit with VideoRedo http://www.videoredo.com/en/ and burn to disk. I was able to record shows of personal interest and edit out commercials, so the show can be edited out and the commercial of interest kept.

Prices seem to be about the same for both the device and software as they were a few years ago.

I have done quite a bit of this stuff, but haven't done any for 2 or 3 years. It worked really well then. I don't know what's out now, but I went through a lot of worthless devices before I found the Hauppauge PVR. The Black Magic Intensity card seemed to work only for raw video camera output, wouldn't pick up what I wanted - a waste of over $300.00. The combination video/audio output to USB recording devices I bought (such as Pinnacle and everything else I tried) simply didn't work. The one direct VHS and TV video to DVD recorder I found and purchased was limited to one hour of recording and degraded the video quality on the finished disk, no provision for editing.

I got started with it because I simply wanted to convert my old VHS to DVD for personal use and that is purposefully made to be very difficult without the right equipment and software. Pissed me off and it became a matter of principle that I be able to do so. I'll add that I tossed out a lot of money on crap devices which didn't work. The PVR was good for backing up VHS to DVD for personal use. For example, I searched high and low to buy a DVD version of the Pink Floyd Delicate Sound of Thunder concert but found it was available only on VHS (which I already had), no commercial DVD versions of the concert were ever available that I know of.

The Hauppauge PVR HD attaches with several cables to the satellite or cable DVR box independent of HDMI, HDMI was configured in a way to prevent intercepting and recording HD signals. Please note that even with the letters "HD" on the Hauppauge device, you're not going to be able to record HD with it - but it was good enough for me.

If you want to copy purchased DVD, HD, and BlueRay disks for personal backup use (don't give away or sell copies, or copy rented media, which is piracy), Slysoft AnyDvd HD http://www.slysoft.com/en/ and BlindWrite http://www.vso-software.fr/products/...blindwrite.php will get you there.

There is also audio (from any source) to CD conversion stuff out there too, some better than others.
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Old 12-23-2013, 11:17 AM
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I haven't seen any of the advertising anywhere around my neck of the woods.
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