Homeland Security, NOT!

[Kathy63]

This is pretty much what I said elsewhere. If we cannot or will not change and scrap the PCBS that is strangling us, we cannot win against these muslim terrorists. They are like Anateus, the more you knock them down the stronger they get. They hold ALL the cards, the race card, the religion card. They have the deck. We don't have so much as a joker.

I am afraid, and I have a serious fear in this regard, that hundreds, thousands perhaps tens of thousands of people will be dead before we burn the deck and all the cards. Maybe not even then. Maybe the committment to "civil rights" is such that we will be content to suffer genocide rather than give up the ideals that are now beating us up.

[Jeanfromfillmore]

Originally Posted by Kathy63

This is pretty much what I said elsewhere. If we cannot or will not change and scrap the PCBS that is strangling us, we cannot win against these muslim terrorists. They are like Anateus, the more you knock them down the stronger they get. They hold ALL the cards, the race card, the religion card. They have the deck. We don't have so much as a joker.

I am afraid, and I have a serious fear in this regard, that hundreds, thousands perhaps tens of thousands of people will be dead before we burn the deck and all the cards. Maybe not even then. Maybe the committment to "civil rights" is such that we will be content to suffer genocide rather than give up the ideals that are now beating us up.

Kathy you make a very good point here. We seem to be in a lose/lose situation.

[Kathy63]

I would suggest that the controversy could be resolved, as most can, by a return to the Constitution. In this case, the Preamble

We the People of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union,
establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility,
provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare,
and secure the blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our posterity
do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.


I see the words, Secure the blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our posterity....

I don't see the world there, or people here illegally, or terrorists. I see "our posterity". That means Americans. The liberty of Americans belongs ONLY to Americans. It is ours and we should not share. Just like the liberty of Greeks belongs to Greeks and no one else. The liberty of Italians is not given to the Swedes.

If we could institute that instead of civil rights, most of these problems would disappear. You want civil rights, be an American. Not a nigerian, or a yemeni, or an iranian, or a mexican. You want the civil rights of a nigerian, yemeni, iranian and mexican, go there. That's where your civil rights are. Not here.

I have long since divested myself of the useless trappings of universal civil rights.

[Patriotic Army Mom]

It will pay for all of us to be very vigilant. There are more out there who have come across our open borders then could be believed. More will come and bring destruction. mr. o, doesn't have to worry, he has all of those secret service men.

[Ole Glory]

DIRECTIVE FROM ICE WEBSITE
http://www.ice.gov/pi/nr/0912/091229detroit.htm

December 29, 2009

ICE: A Federal Leader in Combating Terrorism

As the second largest federal contributor to the nationwide network of Joint Terrorism Task Forces (JTTFs), U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) plays a critical role in protecting the country against the threat of terrorism. With agents assigned to counter-terrorism investigations across the United States and around the world, ICE lends its expertise in enforcing immigration and customs laws to the over 100 JTTFs to investigate, detect, interdict, prosecute and remove terrorists and to dismantle terrorist organizations.

The failed bombing attempt on Northwest Airlines Flight 253 flying into Detroit on Christmas Day is a stark reminder that the terrorism threat is ever present. ICE, along with the entirety of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), stands at the ready to respond to this threat. ICE agents assigned to the Detroit JTTF were quickly on the scene to provide support to the investigation and response effort.

"When we got the word that there was a potential terrorist attack on Flight 253, our team sprang into action," said John P. Woods, deputy assistant director of ICE's National Security Investigations Division. "We immediately provided investigative support, including Arabic language translation, travel document review capabilities and other law enforcement expertise. Thanks to our history of working together with other agencies on the JTTF, everyone knew their role when it came time to respond to this critical incident."

A few facts about ICE's role on JTTFs:

* Virtually every foreign terrorism investigation has a relationship to ICE's authorities for investigating cross-border crime. Foreign terrorists need to move money, weapons and people across international borders to conduct their operations, and ICE holds a unique set of law enforcement tools for disrupting these illicit activities.

* Our federal partners on JTTFs depend on ICE's authorities for enforcing immigration and customs laws in counter-terrorism investigations, because these prosecutions disrupt terror plots while protecting investigative techniques.

* An ICE representative serves in the second most senior position in the National JTTF and is the highest ranking DHS official in the JTTF organization.

ICE's JTTF participation is only one example of the agency's commitment to partnerships in law enforcement and homeland security. For more information on ICE partnership initiatives, visit the ICE ACCESS page.

-- ICE --

We The People California's Crusader

[ilbegone]

Originally Posted by Kathy63

They hold ALL the cards, the race card, the religion card. They have the deck. We don't have so much as a joker.

The one card that might be an example is the credit card, how everyone with credit and all transactions are followed>

An interesting opinion on the subject in the LA Daily News:

Discover can track names

After the attempt to blow up an airplane while in flight, there were reportedly more than 500,000 names on the no-fly list and it was too large to manage. So that left me wondering how my Discover card can track my spending and issue an almost instantaneous alert when my spending pattern was different and unusual, and was then able to even cancel my card to protect me when I couldn't respond immediately to their calls to question the purchase pattern?

If government computers and operators can't handle 500,000 people, because the list is too large, but Discover card can handle tens of millions and all their transactions, I guess we should turn over the no-fly list to Discover card. I for one would feel much safer with national security handled by Discover than I do with it in the hands of the current administration. An administration that after the latest attempt said the system worked.

- BARRY LEVY

Hawthorne

This opinion by Barry Levy as a letter to the editor does not indicate agreement or affiliation with any organization or cause.