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[ilbegone]

Who is the shrink, what are his qualifications and how does he handle his biases?

There are shrinks who themselves have mental problems and / or commit criminal acts. Some take advantage of their patients vulnerabilities and trust, which may include child molestation and "sex therapy" as well as wallet plundering.

If there is anyone who believes a shrink has the patient's best interests at heart, he should make an appointment and try this: about three minutes before the therapeutic session ends the patient pours out the anguish tormenting his soul and watch how distressed the practitioner will get about going into unpaid time.


I believe Lopez is mentally unbalanced, but to what degree?

And just think, there are perhaps thousands of "Latino activists" who haven't been compelled to appear before the bench who are just as nuts.

[DerailAmnesty.com]

Originally Posted by ilbegone

Who is the shrink, what are his qualifications and how does he handle his biases?

There are shrinks who themselves have mental problems and / or commit criminal acts. Some take advantage of their patients vulnerabilities and trust, which may include child molestation and "sex therapy" as well as wallet plundering.

And b/c there are some dishonest or unscrupulous people in that profession, we should allow people w/o training to decide who is mentally unfit and who isn't?

There are also financial fund managers who steal what is supposed to be invested for people approaching retirement. Should we, therefore, only permit people with no financial expertise or experience handling money, to head mutual funds and pension plans?

I've seen TV reports where garage mechanics perform "repairs" for imaginary or non-existent problems with cars they've been paid to fix -- and charge the customers accordingly. Does that mean I shouldn't take my automobiles to a garage where certified mechanics work?

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by DerailAmnesty.com

And b/c there are some dishonest or unscrupulous people in that profession, we should allow people w/o training to decide who is mentally unfit and who isn't?

No, but if the quality of the courts appointed psychs is anything like the quality of their appointed counsel.........

[Twoller]

Apparently Nativo's stalling tactics are what prompted the mental health hearing. He refused to identify himself or identify any kind of defense.

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/mapa-...mpetency-court

MAPA Prez Nativo Lopez: Trial or Mental Competency Court?

Opinion by Denise A Justin

(August 10, 2010) in Society / Animal Rights

Nativo Lopez, Mexican American Political Association (MAPA) National President, appeared on August 6, 2010, in Los Angeles Superior Court Dept. 123, for a hearing regarding his mental competency to stand trial, based upon the opinions of two court-appointed psychiatrists.

Judge Patricia Schnegg had ordered the examinations to establish (1) whether Lopez is capable of understanding the nature of the charges against him and (2) capable of cooperating with counsel during a trial on eight felony charges related to voter fraud. http://www.opposingviews.com/i/nativ...nd-jury-jailed Lopez, represented by Public Defender John Powers, refused to identify himself, as he has done repeatedly at prior hearings.

Judge Schnegg informed him that the report by one of the psychiatrists had not been received, and she would grant him the option of agreeing to re-examination by the same doctor, with the requirement that he provide valid identification at that time.

As Lopez defiantly launched into his well-memorized tirade on “conditional acceptance,” the Judge advised him that his failure to agree could result in the court immediately ordering him to a state mental facility, based on the one psychiatrist’s determination that he is mentally incompetent. That jogged Nativo’s memory sufficiently to agree to the second appointment. Judge Schnegg set the next hearing for September 20, 2010, in Dept. 123.

A handful of supporters appeared in court and after the hearing surrounded Lopez in the hallway, where he described in Spanish with great clarity what had just occurred. It appeared that his competency to understand the proceedings were unimpaired at this particular time, as he eagerly answered questions and elucidated on details.

Nativo Lopez was previously sent to Dept. 95, Mental Competency Court, where he was found by the examining psychiatrist to be mentally competent after spending one night in jail for refusing to identify himself to Judge Maria Stratton. In this second determination, the prosecution and defense were each allowed to select one psychiatrist to examine him. Should the doctors differ in their findings, the standard resolution would be for the judge to hold a hearing and make the final determination.

Lopez has been the center of many public controversies and investigations. Among the most notable were claims that he misused funds granted by the CA Department of Education for English classes for immigrant students. As a result, he was recalled from the Santa Ana School Board by an overwhelming 71% of the mainly Latino voters of the district.

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/nativ...speak-for-mapa and-mexican-americans

Nativo’s current legal problems result from allegations that he registered to vote from the Boyle Heights office address of his Hermandad Mexicana Latinoamericana organization while still living in Orange County, allegedly to serve on the Board of the Green Party.

Lopez’s activities have also included advocacy for cockfighting, which he contends is a Mexican cultural tradition and an intrinsic part of the Latino economy. http://www.opposingviews.com/i/cockf...gitimate-sport

[ilbegone]

Originally Posted by DerailAmnesty.com

And b/c there are some dishonest or unscrupulous people in that profession, we should allow people w/o training to decide who is mentally unfit and who isn't?

There are also financial fund managers who steal what is supposed to be invested for people approaching retirement. Should we, therefore, only permit people with no financial expertise or experience handling money, to head mutual funds and pension plans?

I've seen TV reports where garage mechanics perform "repairs" for imaginary or non-existent problems with cars they've been paid to fix -- and charge the customers accordingly. Does that mean I shouldn't take my automobiles to a garage where certified mechanics work?

It was a legitimate question concerning shrinks. Who is making the judgment and under what criteria? Are they free of personal and professional bullshit, or do they return an expected conclusion the court desires?

I can go further. I don't know you, I've never met you, and I make no judgment on your professional conduct or your personal life.

However, most attorneys I have consulted with over the years didn't want to hear what I had to say, they were primarily concerned with whether or not I had money. Some took my money and did little or nothing for me that I might have accomplished myself under unfamiliar and intimidating circumstances regarding my future. The one appointed for me certainly wasn't going to rock the court's boat. There were three I have retained over the years whom I believe were free of what I believe the legal game does over the years to attorneys, something like what alcohol does to long term drunks.

I remember many years ago going to the wedding parties of my ex wife's best friend and her soon to be husband. She was a young attorney who worked for a central California county DA's office concerning cases of child abuse and child molestation, she eventually left law practice because she couldn't handle it anymore. He was also in some form of legal practice. There were quite a few attorneys at those parties, I marveled at how burned out, hard bitten, and alcoholic most of them looked.

There are good and bad in all occupations, and there are casualties due to long term wear and tear on the body and mind.

My present attorney is human. I sincerely hope the game never gets to her and she leaves the field at the end of her career as she is now.

And I also have a mechanic I trust. Hard to find one of those.