Helen Thomas: Jews Control White House, Congress

[LAPhil]

Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola

Look inward Phil,

There are several threads going that have been updated this week, all having to do with recent action to keep the effort alive. The state capitol thread, the event at the student March in March, the SOS RADIO! Thread, ...I could go on and on, but I haven't seen much from you on those, so what's the difference between your frustration with this organization, your frustration with everyone else, and theirs with you? Not that there is any with you, but I was making a point.
We can lead to water, but we cannot make people drink. This other stuff is just enlightening and amusing in between time for me. Hell, I don't see the same thing Don does about the jewish brotherhood in LA, but I'd like to understand more, simply because then I might also understand why people don't get what I tell them about the mexican brotherhood and their agenda to dominate California. I'm not afraid of Don, nor am I worried about getting some sort of anti-semitic infection from him. Actually, I'm hoping he can learn from us too.

I guess I haven't explained this too well. I understand that I personally play into the apathy by not participating as much myself. So yes, it's partly me, but there are also external factors which affect my attitude. In the "old days", if you remember, there were thousands of posts every day on any number of topics, and you couldn't help but stay interested. I found this board to be really inspirational, and I definitely think it was a factor in my more frequent activism back then. Even before SOS changed hands it was getting to the point where you might start a thread or make a post and not one person would answer you. After a while that gets pretty discouraging. I don't mean to imply that my passion for the illegal immigration issue is any less than it ever was, because it's not. It just seems a little bit lonely right now. I'm not saying it's a rational position, but it's the way I feel.

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by LAPhil

I guess I haven't explained this too well. I understand that I personally play into the apathy by not participating as much myself. So yes, it's partly me, but there are also external factors which affect my attitude. In the "old days", if you remember, there were thousands of posts every day on any number of topics, and you couldn't help but stay interested. I found this board to be really inspirational, and I definitely think it was a factor in my more frequent activism back then. Even before SOS changed hands it was getting to the point where you might start a thread or make a post and not one person would answer you. After a while that gets pretty discouraging. I don't mean to imply that my passion for the illegal immigration issue is any less than it ever was, because it's not. It just seems a little bit lonely right now. I'm not saying it's a rational position, but it's the way I feel.

It's not just here Phil; The posting and activism is down everywhere; the gun forums, the cop forums, the first amendment forums, all of them I am active on. It isn't SOS; It isn't the immigration law enforcement movement; I don't know what it is, but I'm not going to give in to it. When I feel that way, I just get out and do something. Even if it's a little something that people laugh at or ridicule. I figure my opposition is in the same condition, and I'm not opposed to kicking them when they're down. Try and cheer up, and consider my suggestion

[LAPhil]

Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola

It's not just here Phil; The posting and activism is down everywhere;

That's not what I'm been seeing, but I really don't want to belabor this anymore. It's not a very uplifting subject and I went off topic to begin with.

[wetibbe]

Sorry Guys, but I didn't read this thread and I didn't post. Don't really know what has been said to any extent.

However, I think it is correct that postings everywhere are down as well as Patriot Group activity.

Now I do have a problem and I don't exactly understand it myself. I'm definitely an old time Republican and a conservative who has supported the party since childhood. And voted for every Republican President, since, and including, Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Although basically I agree with the right wing media I can no longer listen to:

Rush Limbaugh
Sean Hannity
Laura Ingraham
Glenn Beck
Chris Wallace

And Monica Crowley is now on the short list. Along with Dick Morris.
Geraldo Rivera is on thin ice.

But I do listen to Bill O'Reilly and Charles Krauthammer. And sometimes Karl Rove.

My guess as to the falling interest of posters and Patriots may be: Burnout after so many years. And the changing tide in public opinion and gains in going after illegal aliens.

[LAPhil]

Originally Posted by wetibbe

Although basically I agree with the right wing media I can no longer listen to:

Rush Limbaugh
Sean Hannity
Laura Ingraham
Glenn Beck
Chris Wallace

And Monica Crowley is now on the short list. Along with Dick Morris.
Geraldo Rivera is on thin ice.

But I do listen to Bill O'Reilly and Charles Krauthammer. And sometimes Karl Rove.

My guess as to the falling interest of posters and Patriots may be: Burnout after so many years. And the changing tide in public opinion and gains in going after illegal aliens.

I think your last paragraph has some merit. BTW, since when is Geraldo Rivera right wing?

[DerailAmnesty.com]

Originally Posted by LAPhil

That's not what I'm been seeing, but I really don't want to belabor this anymore. It's not a very uplifting subject and I went off topic to begin with.

I'm with Phil, that's not what I'm seeing either.

It's a pretty simple equation. The SOS board drew attention, from supporters and opposition, b/c we did things. We had stuff to report b/c we were out there - pretty regularly. That tailed off w/ the former SOS as Nightingale lost over half the active membership and couldn't put bodies at events, and so did interest in the board. Same thing here. We had participation when we had things to report. Now we really don't.

Cole is right. We've become a cut and paste news relay outfit. And there's no point getting defensive and telling me about things in Sac. I know you do things, Davi, but that's not where the bulk of our membership is.

As long as we do little or nothing, the interest we generate will be little or nothing.

Despite contrary representations made 3 months ago, not a thing has changed since I started that thread at the beginning of the year ( http://www.saveourstate.info/showthread.php?t=3268 ). We have an organizing committee that can't be bothered to organize.

It's probably time to close it down b/c it's just outright sad and there's no indication that SOP is going to change.

One man, one opinion.

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Also, before I forget - Don, please stop wasting your time posting here. It takes away time you could be earning taxable dollars that Phil and I could grab with our "greasy paws" to help finance the State of Israel.

[Rim05]

I will admit that things get pretty boring here at times, however I do get good information at times. I can't hear, see or read everything, so most of the things I read here are good to read.
As far as getting people to do anything, it is a problem. I don't know the reason but it was so much more interesting when people would post about what ever is/was going on.

My one thought is, people are too quick to criticize others. Some people are too quick to be offended. I actually know people who cannot stand for someone to disagree with them. Why? I don't expect everyone to agree with me but, it would be nice if a person disagrees, just be polite.
I would really miss the forum if it closed.

[Rim05]

DA, I will say that you probably miss the activism a lot because you were always out there.
NEVER GIVE UP!

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by DerailAmnesty.com

It's probably time to close it down b/c it's just outright sad and there's no indication that SOP is going to change.

One man, one opinion.

To hell with you!
If you want the place closed down, you'll be in the company of the open borders lobby, the la raza crowd, the faction of the republican party that lobbies for amnesty, the democrat heirarchy that supports mexico, the mexicans who support illegal immigration, the religious factions , and the SPLC who never met a border security or immigration law enforcement support group they didn't hate.
I'll go past that and issue you this:
If you want the place closed down, you can fight me, sue me, or overthrow me. Short of that, it's not going to happen. Your continuing effort at this has me starting to visualize you as a more educated version of Schwilk

[DerailAmnesty.com]

Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola

To hell with you!
If you want the place closed down, you'll be in the company of the open borders lobby, the la raza crowd, the faction of the republican party that lobbies for amnesty, the democrat heirarchy that supports mexico, the mexicans who support illegal immigration, the religious factions , and the SPLC who never met a border security or immigration law enforcement support group they didn't hate.
I'll go past that and issue you this:
If you want the place closed down, you can fight me, sue me, or overthrow me. Short of that, it's not going to happen. Your continuing effort at this has me starting to visualize you as a more educated version of Schwilk

Yeah, I know that happens. I get mistaken for Schwilk all the time. I'm getting tired of people serving me with papers and then apologizing.