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Old 12-14-2009, 07:08 PM
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Ya notice how they all say we want more money. That's always the excuse. Yet, we spend more money per student than many other states that do way better than California. They complain that the better teachers don't teach in the poor areas, yet don't mention the gangs and violence that the students create in those poor areas. There's no mention of the tenure problem or teachers union that protects substandard teachers. And let's not forget that the students can do just about anything they want, and there's no consequences, they practically run the schools. Try to stop them and you'll be sued.

When I went to school there wasn't a fence around the school or police. If I did something wrong, you bet I was scared because there were consequences. But I sure learned to read, write and learned to do math in my head without a calculator. I learned to do it before I finished the 5th grade.
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Old 12-14-2009, 07:26 PM
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Ya notice how they all say we want more money. That's always the excuse. Yet, we spend more money per student than many other states that do way better than California. They complain that the better teachers don't teach in the poor areas, yet don't mention the gangs and violence that the students create in those poor areas. There's no mention of the tenure problem or teachers union that protects substandard teachers. And let's not forget that the students can do just about anything they want, and there's no consequences, they practically run the schools. Try to stop them and you'll be sued.

When I went to school there wasn't a fence around the school or police. If I did something wrong, you bet I was scared because there were consequences. But I sure learned to read, write and learned to do math in my head without a calculator. I learned to do it before I finished the 5th grade.
More money isn't going to fix the problem.

There has been a lot of talk about how California was committed to education in the 1960's while not mentioning what has transpired in California since.

There is also blaming the lack of funds on proposition 13, but prop 13 helped a lot of old people on fixed incomes avoid being dispossessed of their homes by counties reassessing and raising their property taxes every year.
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Old 12-15-2009, 06:31 AM
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Ill qualified teachers in inner city schools get paid MORE money than qualified teachers in better schools. Money isn't the problem. More money won't attract better teachers. Bad teachers already make significantly more money than good teacher. There isn't enough money in the world to persuade good teachers to basically take their lives in their hands and teach in some of these schools.
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:26 AM
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As long as schools in poor neighborhoods are obliged to teach students where the families do not speak English, the education of everyone else is going to suffer. If you cannot speak English, you have no business being here and we do not care about educating your children. Get out and take your anchor babies with you. Or if the parents are anchor babies, they should get out and take the children with them too.
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:41 AM
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That would certainly help. But it would not end the violence in inner city schools. The worst teachers would still make the most money.

It's curious. What would happen if this nugget were exposed? If the public knew that the worst and most ill equipped teachers gravitated to inner city schools who are so desperate they feel lucky to have anyone brave enough to show up, got more money than the best suburb schools. Would they scream, or say there still wasn't enough money.
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