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Old 12-13-2013, 08:36 PM
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Default No ID, No Entry.....At A State Building

I'm sure most of you know I visit many state offices to conduct SOS business. I have noticed an alarming, and hypocritical trend lately. State public buildings that require an ID to enter. Today it was the building downtown where the state parks are headquartered. I went to buy a state park pass. Not big deal, and certainly not a secured area like a military installation, but after passing through a checkpoint beyond the doors, I ran head on into a security team at a desk that asked my business. I told them I was here to buy a park pass for a year, and they told me the office closed at 4. I then saw the sign that all "visitors" must show ID and sign in. I asked what the heck was the deal with that, because this was a public building and all. They were a bit terse, and said that I had to present ID to proceed. I asked what if I don't have one, and would they stop me from entering. They answered a question with a question, and I drilled them a bit more, and said I'd return monday for the pass.

This was not my first time either. I ran into this at the secretary of state's office recently while coming to review records they had compiled for a request I made. I told them I was here to view public records and that I had no ID on me, but that I was a citizen of the state of California. They balked at first, and then asked me to sign in, which I did, after all they knew I was coming and all.

The thought that you have to show an ID to enter a public building that is not a military or other sensitive type area is a bit unsettling. Especially coming from a state that fights tooth and nail against ID's for voters (the Secretary of State's office is where you can register to vote, file candidate papers, and inspect election materials.

this is not a practice we should accept, and I urge everyone here to consider rejecting it. Just go to these places without your ID's on you and state that you are a citizen of the state, and that public buildings should be open to everyone without fear the government collecting personal information about those visiting.
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Old 12-13-2013, 08:59 PM
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Did you think of telling them that it is racially discriminatory towards yourself and was a malevolent plot to keep you politically down to require Id in order to visit a government building?

That's the gist of argument against positive voter ID.

I guess what's good for the goose ain't good for the gander.
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Old 12-14-2013, 04:48 AM
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I hear you ,AG. In some ways I can understand what they are doing. If that is the new rule, why don't they let us know? I hear about some who should not be some place but they are.
In this time of strife in our society we do need some stops but as usual they stop the wrong people.

Do keep the Sac work up.
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Old 12-14-2013, 01:26 PM
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Last month when Greg and a group of us went to visit those politicians we were escorted to visit the State Senator's office; where we already had an appointment. There's something to be said when the government is afraid of the people; this government is now very afraid of the people and they created the problem themselves. What we have could now be considered a police state that grows more oppressive each day.
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