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Old 04-15-2010, 07:07 AM
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I don't like the race issue to be a driving force here, or even a focus, but propaganda is propaganda, and it must be addressed:

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Wise pointed out, as an example, that the majority of CEOs of top companies are white men, who he then criticized for losing billions of dollars over the last few years.

"It would take half a millennium for black and brown folk to steal that much damn money!" Wise joked before adding, "But we're more afraid of a black guy crossing the street in a hoodie than we are of rich white men driving around in their Lexuses."
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Old 04-15-2010, 08:37 AM
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Corrupt minorities milking white guilt for whatever crumbs they can scratch up is hardly news and nothing to worry about. I think with the Obamination presidency, this milking has pretty much peaked. It really has no other place to go and all they have left is the need to get people's attention.

Don't give it to them.

If you want to worry about something, there are plenty of people out there who still believe that there are rational claims to something like racial superiority and advocate national and foreign policies based on these.
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Old 04-15-2010, 08:54 AM
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Corrupt minorities milking white guilt for whatever crumbs they can scratch up is hardly news and nothing to worry about. I think with the Obamination presidency, this milking has pretty much peaked. It really has no other place to go and all they have left is the need to get people's attention.

Don't give it to them.

If you want to worry about something, there are plenty of people out there who still believe that there are rational claims to something like racial superiority and advocate national and foreign policies based on these.
Crumbs? These programs are going national, and just look at the attendees....700. What do you think will come out of educating kids to be biased against whites? This program has hardly peaked; It's just getting started
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Old 04-15-2010, 12:38 PM
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If you want to make something out of this kind of crap, you just make the problem worse. What they need is your attention, if nobody gets outraged, then they have failed in a basic objective.

If you insist on getting excited about stuff like this when there is so little going on, it is easy to imagine you have an interest in it as well. It is another fake debate propped up by participants on either side of the drama who both have an interest. It's sort of like the Drug War. Criminals have an interest in it and so do the police. The two need each and they know it and either one typically skips to the other side occasionally to pick up a little money and power from a different angle.

Racism has a history of being a real problem and we still have enough racists to worry about the problem. Are CEO's behind racism? No, that's not where the problem has its roots. So what if the majority of CEO's are white? That doesn't have anything to do with racism. Would a racist argue that it does? Of course, they would say that it is evidence of racial superiority, but that doesn't qualify as evidence at all. But the racists are in total agreement with these folks who say that it is racism that makes all the CEO's white. See? They work together to keep everyone off balance and in order to influence people they need your attention.

Don't give it to them. Keep your eyes on the real problem, but only if you are actually concerned about the real problem.
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If you want to make something out of this kind of crap, you just make the problem worse. What they need is your attention, if nobody gets outraged, then they have failed in a basic objective.

If you insist on getting excited about stuff like this when there is so little going on, it is easy to imagine you have an interest in it as well. It is another fake debate propped up by participants on either side of the drama who both have an interest. It's sort of like the Drug War. Criminals have an interest in it and so do the police. The two need each and they know it and either one typically skips to the other side occasionally to pick up a little money and power from a different angle.

Racism has a history of being a real problem and we still have enough racists to worry about the problem. Are CEO's behind racism? No, that's not where the problem has its roots. So what if the majority of CEO's are white? That doesn't have anything to do with racism. Would a racist argue that it does? Of course, they would say that it is evidence of racial superiority, but that doesn't qualify as evidence at all. But the racists are in total agreement with these folks who say that it is racism that makes all the CEO's white. See? They work together to keep everyone off balance and in order to influence people they need your attention.

Don't give it to them. Keep your eyes on the real problem, but only if you are actually concerned about the real problem.
Your whole comment is, well wrong. Letting the commenters off by just ignoring such racist crap is not going to make it go away. They need to be called out and exposed. Have you spent time in a college or university class lately. It's not anything like school of 30 years ago. They are pounding the students to hate this country and hate Whites. And this sort of statements that all CEOs are White just perpetuates that anti White agenda. They need to be called on the double standard of their racism.
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Your whole comment is, well wrong. Letting the commenters off by just ignoring such racist crap is not going to make it go away. They need to be called out and exposed. Have you spent time in a college or university class lately. It's not anything like school of 30 years ago. They are pounding the students to hate this country and hate Whites. And this sort of statements that all CEOs are White just perpetuates that anti White agenda. They need to be called on the double standard of their racism.
You are seriously out of touch with the universities. I wonder if you have ever attended a university. Universities are always and always have been a source of foment and intellectual confrontation. This is the way it must be. It's mostly because universities are filled with young and impressionable adults who are itching to show they are special, different and to get attention. We hope that universities will give us the chance to spot the brightest with the most potential. Meanwhile, some of them go on to become college professors, which is a worthy position that follows closely on the passions of university students. What we see here is a natural consequence.

The best way of confronting bad information in universities is with good information, it is not to give them your attention, especially if you yourself are as weak on the subject as they are. If you don't like the universities teaching evolution and want an equal audience for creation theory, you are not going to get an audience unless they are as intellectually weak as you are. But if you are, then it's not going to attract the attention of the rest of us who know better than both you or your intellectual opponents in some soft headed university.

Thirty years ago was the eighties, but even further back in the sixties it was even worse. But some of the confrontation was justified in the sixties and did a lot to advance universities to standards that everyone could agree to. Free speech on campus, more opportunities for women in faculty, minority studies. These are all good things, subject to corruption and misapplication like anything that goes on in any institution.

The best way to confront problems in any institution of higher learning is to not stoop to the level of people doing the damage. Always assume a higher tone and stick to the subject which presumes to be addressed. Universities function by being places of intellectual discipline and insisting on it is always the best way to confront things like we see in the above article. And this is all at Sacramento State University, not exactly an intellectual center by anyone's standards.
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You are seriously out of touch with the universities. I wonder if you have ever attended a university. Universities are always and always have been a source of foment and intellectual confrontation. This is the way it must be. It's mostly because universities are filled with young and impressionable adults who are itching to show they are special, different and to get attention. We hope that universities will give us the chance to spot the brightest with the most potential. Meanwhile, some of them go on to become college professors, which is a worthy position that follows closely on the passions of university students. What we see here is a natural consequence.

The best way of confronting bad information in universities is with good information, it is not to give them your attention, especially if you yourself are as weak on the subject as they are. If you don't like the universities teaching evolution and want an equal audience for creation theory, you are not going to get an audience unless they are as intellectually weak as you are. But if you are, then it's not going to attract the attention of the rest of us who know better than both you or your intellectual opponents in some soft headed university.

Thirty years ago was the eighties, but even further back in the sixties it was even worse. But some of the confrontation was justified in the sixties and did a lot to advance universities to standards that everyone could agree to. Free speech on campus, more opportunities for women in faculty, minority studies. These are all good things, subject to corruption and misapplication like anything that goes on in any institution.

The best way to confront problems in any institution of higher learning is to not stoop to the level of people doing the damage. Always assume a higher tone and stick to the subject which presumes to be addressed. Universities function by being places of intellectual discipline and insisting on it is always the best way to confront things like we see in the above article. And this is all at Sacramento State University, not exactly an intellectual center by anyone's standards.
You're full of $HIT.
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They say that whites are afraid to talk about race.

But, stepping between the landmines, it needs to be done.

What is the difference between the real Movimiento Estudial Chicano de Aztlan and the hypothetical Skinhead Student Movement for an Aryan American Homeland?

Absolutely nothing. Yet the first is encouraged by "educators" and various goverment employees and explained away as "cultural pride", while the second would be universally condemned as being racist - but a white skinhead race "club" in university couldn't be any more racist than the race obsessed university "club" MECHA.

During the Chicano walkouts in 1968, the 50% graduation rate of Latinos in the schools targeted by walkouts was blamed on the white school board. Forty years later, with those of the Chicano walk out mentality largely dictating the curriculum, the graduation rate for Latinos in those same schools is roughly the the same - about 50%.

So, over the last year or so the spin has been that, in spite of all the dollars thrown at education, white middle class Americans are unwilling to spend money to educate minorities.

Lately, the spin has turned to the half truth that "immigrant" parents don't realize they can confront the education system concerning their children's education.

It's total bullshit. It's obvious who the real racists are, and they need to be brought to task for their racism.
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They say that whites are afraid to talk about race.

But, stepping between the landmines, it needs to be done.

What is the difference between the real Movimiento Estudial Chicano de Aztlan and the hypothetical Skinhead Student Movement for an Aryan American Homeland?

Absolutely nothing. Yet the first is encouraged by "educators" and various goverment employees and explained away as "cultural pride", while the second would be universally condemned as being racist - but a white skinhead race "club" in university couldn't be any more racist than the race obsessed university "club" MECHA.

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Sure, what is the real difference? None. Please try to understand. At one time white racism was very respectable on campus. At one time, white racism had intellectual respectability. Right, it's all skinheads now, but not too long ago it was guys in tweed. Really. It was white racism then, now it's non-white racism. Can't you see? It's the same people whipping up the same people on either side of the race boundary. But it's crap and shouldn't stand the light of day on a good university.
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