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Old 02-13-2010, 05:18 AM
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What impact would Obama's mother being a minor and married (to anyone from anywhere) have upon the citizenship of her Hawaiian-born child?
Good question. But, when a person is hell bent on trying to do something they want more than anything, then some of the time they must stray from reality/reason. There is a time to accept reality.
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Good question. But, when a person is hell bent on trying to do something they want more than anything, then some of the time they must stray from reality/reason. There is a time to accept reality.
Yes there is, and there is time to accept that you were naive enough to vote an illegal alien in as President!

I was not dumb enough to vote somebody into this high of office, clearly knowing nobody has ever seen his birth certificate. The only thing that has been shown is a COLB, which anybody, from anywhere could of gone to Hawaii and got one that looked just like obummers.

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Dear WorldNetDaily Reader:

There have been lawsuits filed all over the country challenging Barack Obama to prove he is a "natural born citizen" as required by the Constitution. The most high-profile of these cases has been prepared and argued by WND's friends at the United States Justice Foundation, a public interest law firm with high principles.

People are always asking me what they can do to further the eligibility issue. The answer? Support the groundbreaking and relentless work of the USJF!

Below, please find an important update from their Executive Director, Gary Kreep.

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Dear Defender of the U. S. Constitution!

FEBRUARY 1, 2010, is the beginning of real freedom in America! That was the day that I, on behalf of all Americans, filed our Opening Appellants Brief (AOB) in the Appellant Court against the Defendants-Respondents: supposed president BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, Vice-president Joe Biden, Secretary of the State of California Debra BOWEN, and others.

On behalf of YOUR United States Justice Foundation (USJF), I respectfully requested a REVERSAL of the trial court judgment sustaining the Respondents’ “demurrer,” which means that the defendant in a case does not dispute the truth of the allegations in the lawsuit, but claims that there are not sufficient legal grounds to justify a court granting relief.

I know that you already admire these great Americans that I represent in this historic lawsuit: Dr. Alan KEYES (Presidential candidate for the American Independent Party in 2008), Vice-Presidential nominee for the same party in 2008, Dr. Wiley Drake, and California Elector Markham Robinson. As you know, these are all great, patriotic Americans.

At issue is the eligibility requirement of Barack Hussein Obama to serve as President of the United States!!

I’ve received hate mail. I’ve had threats made against my life. I’ve been relentlessly ridiculed by the mainstream media. But yet I continue the fight to SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH!! America deserves the truth.

YOU DESERVE THE TRUTH!!

Please, CLICK HERE, to send your largest possible donation to help in this legal fight for the United States Constitution. As an American citizen, YOU have a right to know if Barack Hussein Obama is, indeed, an American citizen! Not only is it your right, it is a requirement of the U. S. Constitution for him to be a “natural born citizen to serve as President! Please, give generously, and please do so TODAY! This fight is extremely expensive (Mr. Obama’s lawyers have, according to published reports, already spent over $1.7 Million just to hide the truth from us and our allies in this confrontation!!)

The mainstream media has called me every name in the book. But, like a well-trained lawyer, I answer their charges: line-upon-line, precept upon precept.

I am not mean-spirited, as depicted by the liberal media. If Mr. Obama produced a real birth certificate that proved that he was a “natural born” citizen of the United States of America, I would be the first one to “salute” him as president. HOWEVER--

As of this very moment, there has been NO GENUINE, BONAFIDE, MEANINGFUL, EVIDENCE, shown by him or by his lawyers to satisfy a court of law that he is an American citizen, must less a “natural born” citizen!! NONE!!

We’ve been at this fight for well over one year; and, now, I believe that we have a legal case that has a real “LEGAL BITE” to our contention that Barack Hussein Obama is not the President of the United States, according to our own United States Constitution!!

The issue of whether Mr. Obama is eligible to serve as President of the United States is one that has “significant political overtones,” given that it has a direct relation to the election of the most powerful political office in the United States (for the world, for that matter). But it is an issue that is a defining moment, for which the Court can make a determination, because the requirements are clearly stated in Article II, Section 1, Clause 4, of the U. S. Constitution. And courts routinely decide questions of law and of fact such as the issue in this case.

But there are many enormous forces coming against the United States Justice Foundation (USJF)! This is no ordinary case. This is like the war of the gladiators; actually more like David and Goliath! Not to be flippant, but, basically, USJF is David; and Mr. Obama is Goliath!! The supposed “forces of change” has come against us with everything that they’ve got!! As a lawyer, I shouldn’t use the word “mafia” -- but it is absolutely unbelievable what we are facing !!

And yes, “little David” is unbelievably underfunded!

CLICK HERE to assist in this legal battle to learn the truth!! YOU have a right to know that Barack Hussein Obama is an American citizen! It is a requirement of the U. S. Constitution for him to be a “natural born citizen,”to serve as President. Please, give generously, and please do so TODAY! This fight is very costly. My staff is over-worked, and we cannot match the resources of Mr. Obama’s legal “dream team.” Mr. Obama has already spent over $1.7 Million in legal fees, according to published reports, just to hide the truth from YOU!

As of the filing of our brief on Monday, Barack Hussein Obama has not allowed independent or official access to his vault (original hospital) birth records and supporting hospital records. Mr. Obama’s citizenship status has been challenged in over 20 different legal actions in various federal and state courts, which challenges cast doubt on the validity of the electoral process, regardless of the outcome.

Here is the short of what we know at this very moment: Mr. Obama entered this race for President without having met the eligibility requirements for the office of President of the United States. As a result, Dr. Alan Keyes and Dr. Drake have been injured because they did not have fair competition for the offices they sought. They were not given a fair opportunity to obtain votes for President and Vice-President of the United States! They sustained “injuries,” according to Federal Court case law.

I know that all this sounds like a lot of legal terminology---but all that we simply want is the TRUTH---is Barack Obama qualified, by our own U. S. Constitution, to serve as President of the United States.

NO---I am not on some “witch hunt,” as the media has painted me. Veterans, soccer moms, businessmen, school kids, seniors, divorcees, hard workers---all they want is THE TRUTH! Especially our men serving in “harm’s way” in our military--they really need to know!!

Did you know that John McCain had a lawsuit filed against him, to force him to establish his citizenship (Hollander v. McCain) during his campaign for President! After he produced evidence and official documents, and after Congressional hearings (!), the U. S., by Senate Resolution 511, John McCain was recognized as a “natural born citizen.” If he had to go through these “hoops”---why didn’t his presidential opponent have to do the same??

Here is how our United States Constitution actually reads: “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.”

Please let us know, TODAY, if you wish to help us to get to the bottom of this critical Constitutional battle , by CLICKING HERE. Do you want to know if Barack Hussein Obama is a “natural born” American citizen! Please, give generously today!

Here is how our brief, in part, reads: “APPELLANTS allege that OBAMA is legally disabled by his birth status. Therefore, all votes cast in favor of the OBAMA/BIDEN joint and severable ticket by the California Electors should be deemed null and void, since the votes were cast for an individual ineligible to run for the office of President of the United States.”

It’s just that plain and simple!

Never in my wildest imagination would I ever think of me having to do this in the United States of America. And, despite what you may have been told by the Obama-controlled media, there are a number of legal precedents for this action.

Like former radical, Black Panther leader Eldridge Cleaver, who was taken off Presidential ballots , both in Utah and in California (the California removal resulted in the ACLU filing a lawsuit to put him back on the Presidential ballot that went all the way up to the United States Supreme Court—and California won that case!) for not being old enough...

Like former North Dakota Governor Thomas H. Moodie, who was duly elected to be that state’s governor; however, afterward, it was discovered that he had not resided in the state for a requisite five years before running for office, and, because of that ineligibility, he was REMOVED from office by that State’s Supreme Court in 1935.

I assure you; I am not on a personal vendetta against Barack Hussein Obama. JUST LET US KNOW THE TRUTH!! The bottom line: voters DO NOT have the power, or the right, (according to the U. S. Constitution!!) to determine the eligibility of a candidate---no matter how popular that person may be!

Here is the crux of this particular case: Ms. Bowen, the California Secretary of State, did NOT exercise her required “due diligence,” by certifying candidates to run for office without verifying that they had met all of the requirements of eligibility for office.

What proof do we need?

• An original birth certificate, showing the name of the hospital and the name and signature of the doctor who delivered the candidate

• A passport with immigration stamps, and verification from the governments where the candidate has resided, verifying that he did not, and does not, hold citizenship of these countries

• Any other documents that could certify an individual’s citizenship and/or qualification for office.

Will you help us today . . . to get to the bottom of this crisis---all we want is the TRUTH!!

PLEASE, CLICK HERE, to send your donation to help in this legal fight for the United States Constitution. As an American citizen, YOU have a right to know if Barack Hussein Obama is a “fellow” American! Please give to assist us today in this battle of David and Goliath!


I watched Mr. Obama at his first State of the Union address last week; then his revealing budget speech, shortly before I filed these pleadings in court. Amazingly, I asked myself (just like tens of millions of other inquiring Americans!!)---what in the world does Barack Hussein Obama have to hide?? With your continued help, we shall soon see what he has been hiding!! Thank you for your support and for your prayers for our success.

Please do what you can -– with a grateful heart,

Gary Kreep, Executive Director
United States Justice Foundation

P. S. We are on the brink of the real truth!! What does it take to just get a signed copy of a birth certificate? Why has Mr. Obama spent over $1.7 million, according to published reports, just to hide the truth from United States citizens? Please, assist us today...

CLICK HERE to help in this costly battle for the very soul of the United States Constitution. YOU have a right to know if Barack Hussein Obama is a “natural born” American citizen! Please, give generously to the USJF, and please do so TODAY! This fight has been going on for over one year. The costs continue to mount. Thank you for caring!

To Donate by check, please mail to:
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The United States Justice Foundation (USJF) is a non-profit organization, whose tax-exempt status under IRS section 501(c)(3) has been recognized by the Internal Revenue Service. Your contributions are tax deductible. Corporate contributions may be accepted.
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Old 02-13-2010, 03:12 PM
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Please, CLICK HERE, to send your largest possible donation to help......

CLICK HERE to assist in this legal battle to learn the truth!!....

by CLICKING HERE. Do you want to know if Barack Hussein Obama is a “natural born” American citizen!......

Please, give generously today!.....

PLEASE, CLICK HERE, to send your donation.....

Please do what you can -– with a grateful heart,.....

P. S.
CLICK HERE to help in this costly battle for the very soul.....

give generously to the USJF, and please do so TODAY!.....
I wonder how much interest "World Net Daily" has in "their friends" at the "United States Justice Foundation"
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Some people want to know the truth, don't you? Seems how your State used to be a conservative State, but now is a liberal state, that is the going to be the very first state that goes bankrupt!
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'Hardship on plaintiff greatly outweighs hardship on defendant'
Posted: February 13, 2010
12:10 am Eastern

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A California lawyer who has shepherded several of the high-profile legal challenges to Barack Obama's eligibility to be president has filed a pleading in federal court in Washington, saying she faces a $20,000 penalty and a threat to her law license and needs the president's birth documents to defend herself.

Attorney Orly Taitz told WND she submitted the pleading today to Chief Judge Royce Lamberth of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia.

Taitz said she applied for a preliminary injunction, because her understanding of the rules of procedure for the district court shows a hearing or decision must be returned within 20 days.

Among the cases she has handled have been one in California on behalf of presidential candidate Alan Keyes which now is on appeal, another in Georgia on behalf of Maj. Stefan Cook and yet another in Georgia on behalf of Capt. Connie Rhodes.

WND has reported efforts to raise the question of Obama's eligibility at the state and national levels since before the 2008 election.

Numerous lawsuits have been filed alleging Obama did not meet the U.S. Constitution's requirement that a president be a "natural born citizen." The lawsuits have asserted he either was not born in Hawaii as he claims or was a dual citizen because of his father's British citizenship at the time of his birth.

The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

Demand the truth by joining the petition campaign to make President Obama reveal his long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate!

However, none of the cases filed to date has been successful in reaching the plateau of legal discovery so that information about Obama's birth could be obtained. Most have been dismissed at the lower court level based on judges' decisions that the plaintiffs did not have "standing" – or the prospect of a personal injury in the cases.

Taitz' filing in Washington argues she's facing a $20,000 penalty imposed by Judge Clay D. Land in the Rhodes case and possible action by the California Bar Association, to which Land forwarded his highly critical order.

"Plaintiff is seeking a preliminary injunction … to obtain the vital records of the defendant prior to the February 26 deadline for document and response submission of the response by the plaintiff to the [California] bar," she wrote. "Plaintiff is seeking a preliminary injunction within 20 days, as prescribed by LCvR 65.1 (d) to be scheduled by the court prior to March 1."

She said the U.S. Supreme Court has concluded, in a previous case, a sitting president "has no immunity from civil law litigation against him from acts done before office and not related to the office."

Taitz stated she has "a unique standing to bring this case as she suffered unique damages and she was … harmed by the actions of the defendant."

Her "Defend Our Freedoms Foundation" has been under repeated hacker attacks. She operates through a mailing address of 29839 Santa Margarita Parkway, Suite 100, Rancho Santa Margarita, Calif., 92688.

"Obama has refused to unseal any of his original vital records," she said. "No one was allowed to see his original birth certificate, college application records, financial aid forms or his medical records," she argues. "The only record Obama presented was a short version Certification of Live Birth issued in 2007 which didn't provide the name of the hospital, name of the doctor in attendance or signatures of any witnesses.

"In light of the fact that the state of HI statute 338-17 allowed foreign born children of Hawaiian residents to get Hawaiian birth certificates and statute 338-5 allowed birth certificates to be obtained without any corroborating documents from any hospitals, there is no verifiable prima facia evidence of Obama's birth in Hawaii," she argues.

"Plaintiff is seeking an order by this honorable court directing the defendant to release by February 26, 2010, his original birth certificate, which was allegedly obtained based on the defendant's birth in Kapi'olani hospital in Hawaii [in 1961]," she seeks.

She's also asking for school and university records as well as passport records.

"When one compares the weight of hardships on both parties, the hardship on the plaintiff greatly outweighs the hardship on the defendant," she said.

She argued that the U.S. attorney's office should not handle Obama's defense.

"In case the U.S. attorney's office is not recused and it is found that the defendant has committed federal criminal offenses, the same U.S. attorney's office will be prosecuting him, which will deny him fair trail."

WND has reported lawmakers in a number of states have responded to the Obama controversy by proposing eligibility requirements, including Oklahoma, Arizona, Georgia, Indiana, Virginia and New York.

The proposals essentially are moving the same direction as a federal measure proposed by Rep. Bill Posey, R-Fla.

Posey's H.R. 1503 states:

"To amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to require the principal campaign committee of a candidate for election to the office of President to include with the committee's statement of organization a copy of the candidate's birth certificate, together with such other documentation as may be necessary to establish that the candidate meets the qualifications for eligibility to the Office of President under the Constitution."

The bill also provides:

"Congress finds that under … the Constitution of the United States, in order to be eligible to serve as President, an individual must be a natural born citizen of the United States who has attained the age of 35 years and has been a resident within the United States for at least 14 years."

The sponsors' goal is for the bill to become effective for the 2012 presidential election. The legislation now is pending in a House committee and has more than a dozen co-sponsors.

Key to the arguments over Obama's eligibility is the fact that his original long-form birth certificate never has been released. A second significant factor is the multitude of documents that Obama has kept from the public.

Besides his actual birth documentation, the still-concealed documentation includes kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, his files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records.

Thirdly, another significant factor is the estimated $1.7 million Obama has spent on court cases to prevent any of the documentation of his life to be revealed to the public.


"Where's The Birth Certificate?" billboard helps light up the night at the Mandalay Bay resort on the Las Vegas Strip.

Because of the dearth of information about Obama's eligibility, WND founder Joseph Farah has launched a campaign to raise contributions to post billboards asking a simple question: "Where's the birth certificate?"

The campaign followed a petition that has collected more than 490,000 signatures demanding proof of his eligibility, the availability of yard signs raising the question and the production of permanent, detachable magnetic bumper stickers asking the question.

The "certification of live birth" posted online and widely touted as "Obama's birth certificate" does not in any way prove he was born in Hawaii, since the same "short-form" document is easily obtainable for children not born in Hawaii. The true "long-form" birth certificate – which includes information such as the name of the birth hospital and attending physician – is the only document that can prove Obama was born in Hawaii, but to date he has not permitted its release for public or press scrutiny.

Oddly, though congressional hearings were held to determine whether Sen. John McCain was constitutionally eligible to be president as a "natural born citizen," no controlling legal authority ever sought to verify Obama's claim to a Hawaiian birth.

Your donation – from as little as $5 to as much as $1,000 – can be made online at the WND SuperStore. (Donations are not tax-deductible. Donations of amounts greater than $1,000 can be arranged by calling either 541-474-1776 or 1-800-4WND.COM. If you would prefer to mail in your contributions, they should be directed to WND, P.O. Box 1627, Medford, Oregon, 97501. Be sure to specify the purpose of the donation by writing "billboard" on the check. In addition, donations of billboard space will be accepted, as will significant contributions specifically targeted for geographic locations.)

If you are a member of the media and would like to interview Joseph Farah about this campaign, e-mail WND.
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Some people want to know the truth, don't you?
Lets pretend that the "Unites Sates Justice Foundation" finds that Obama was born a citizen, would you accept their word?
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Lets pretend that the "Unites Sates Justice Foundation" finds that Obama was born a citizen, would you accept their word?
Yes I would, because nobody, including PachoPatriot, RIMO, or SZ has no proof other wise.
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