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Old 03-08-2011, 06:08 AM
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Default The gangster administration !

So says Michelle Bachman:

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BATF - OUR own government has been smuggling arms into Mexico and giving them to the Cartels !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Surely you heard about it . Over 2,000 rifles over 15 months. *( Isn't it ironic that our own government is arming the Cartels while the Mexican Government is disarming our agents in Mexico .

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New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg - has spent over $100,000 of taxpayers money sending NYPD agents to Arizona, hiring undercover personnel, buying airfare, meals, hotels, and guns !!! No licensed gun dealers would "bite". But they found 4 of 9 private gun sellers, at a Phoenix gun show, who would sell guns without a background check. Guns sold were the Glock 19 which is legal and an extended clip, separately. The transaction was actually not against the law.

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Kathleen Sebelius - has now been caught, admitting that the $500 billion taken out of medicare and put into Obama care is double counting. Obama care economics have just "gone out the window" !

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Obama - 2008 I'm closing Guantanamo and prosecuting the terrorists.

Obama - 2011 I'm not closing Guantanamo !

Just wondering which comedians are the most appropriate:

1. Keystone cops.
2. Charlie Chaplin.
3. Laurel & Hardy.
4. The three stooges.
5. Abbot & Costello.

*( Our younger generation may not recognize them but they were the most outrageous slapstick back in the silent film and black and white movie days ).

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Old 03-10-2011, 06:25 AM
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Default It gets worse friends:

Now Janet Napolitano has testified before Senator Charles Grassley that she has NO knowledge of the "Fast and Furious" - BATF "Gun Runner " operation !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!.

The plot thickens. Now Oregon and Washingtn State are implicated !!!!!

So we can ask: Did Bloombergs NYPD actually sniff out some hanky panky before going to Arizona clandestinely ? But it wasn't the NYPD that broke the story. It was the guns smuggled and implicated in the Brian Terry CBP shooting !!!

If inspector Clusoe *( Bloomberg ) was unaware, then his NYPD was stumbling around, fumbling into a secret, undercover Federal Government operation. This actually all makes the escapade even more onerous because Bloomberg was trying to hang a rap on licensed gun dealers while it was in reality our own Government that was doing the smuggling ! The honest gun dealers that BATF cajoled and bamboozled didn't like the operation at all. They were trying to stay honest and our Government was corruption them !!!

This raises the bigger questions: Did the Cartel pay off some BATF managers ? And is our own Government involved in aiding and abetting Mexican drug cartels. The answer is most definitely YES they were aiding Cartels in Mexico ??

This is really beginning to stink to high heaven.
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Grassley: ‘Congress needs to get to the bottom of this’
By Dave Workman, Seattle Gun Rights Examiner
March 4th, 2011 9:52 am PT

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives’ “Project Gunrunner” scandal exploded with yesterday’s follow-up report on the CBS Evening News by Sharyl Atkisson, coincidentally – or perhaps not – on the same day ATF announced a major gun and drug bust in Portland, OR and Southwest Washington.

The CBS “Gunrunner” story, which focused on the ATF’s Phoenix office’s alleged mishandling of an operation dubbed “Fast and Furious,” and news coverage of the Northwest arrests came just hours after Iowa Sen. Charles Grassley sent a 31-page letter to Attorney General Eric Holder and Kenneth E. Melson, acting director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, telling them that “Congress needs to get to the bottom of this.”

Agent Dodson and other sources say the gun walking strategy was approved all the way up to the Justice Department. The idea was to see where the guns ended up, build a big case and take down a cartel. And it was all kept secret from Mexico.—CBS Evening News, Sharyl Atkisson

But how does the above revelation by CBS square with Assistant Attorney General Ronald Weich’s Feb. 4 letter to Sen. Grassley, in which Weich insisted that the senator’s assertion “…that ATF ‘sanctioned’ or otherwise knowingly allowed the sale of assault weapons to a straw purchase who then transported them into Mexico—is false?”

Despite expanded press attention to the controversy, Grassley appears to be alone in his probe of an ATF operation gone horribly wrong. His solo effort prompted one ATF insider to observe “There needs to be five or six (member of Congress) on this.” The Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms has renewed its call for public action to pressure Capitol Hill to get involved.

To date, there has not been any interest shown by either of Washington State’s two anti-gun senators, Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell, or Oregon’s Ron Wyden and Jeff Merkley, even though it appears the ATF allowed hundreds of firearms to enter the black market and travel to Mexico, where they have been reportedly recovered at various crime scenes. Two of those guns showed up at the scene where Border Control agent Brian Terry was killed in December. All four are Democrats who support gun control. Grassley is ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee. This column discussed the silence from Murray and Cantwell here.

The Northwest Democrats could be more interested in the local story. ATF agents arrested at least 36 people, confiscated 77 firearms including a machinegun and sawed-off shotgun, and seized a variety of illegal drugs including cocaine, methamphetamine, heroin, psilocybin, Oxycontin, ecstacy and marijuana, according to KATU and KGW in Portland. This case is being discussed on the Northwest Firearms forum here.

The U.S. Attorney's Office, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives, and the Metro Gang Task Force worked together in the

Portland portion of the large undercover operation. Authorities said there were a total of 64 indictments handed down.—KGW Portland


The timing on this roundup may please the ATF for reasons other than rounding up bad guys. According to independent blogger Mike Vanderboegh, whose investigative work with my colleague, National Gun Rights Examiner David Codrea, actually dug up the Gunrunner scandal, the Portland arrests are just what ATF is looking for.

Vanderboegh intercepted a memo from Scot L. Thomasson, ATF public information chief, which encourages local “good news” to offset Gunrunner coverage.

Holder has asked the Justice Department Inspector General to investigate, which Bellevue’s Alan Gottlieb, chairman of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, had demanded several days ago. Likewise, Melson last night called for a review by a “multi-disciplinary panel of law enforcement professionals” following the CBS expose, which interviewed whistleblower ATF Agent John Dodson, who risked his career to come forward.


(ATF Agent John) Dodson said in an interview that “with the number of guns we let walk, we’ll never know how many people were killed, raped, robbed … there is nothing we can do to round up those guns. They are gone.”—Public Integrity.org

Sen. Grassley, in an interview with CBS’ Atkisson, asserted that he is being stonewalled.

One ATF source reacted to that assertion by observing, “Silence is an admission of guilt in the federal government.”

There is no indication that an investigation or inquiry will lead to what some in ATF believe should be a “house-cleaning” of the Phoenix office as there was in Texas following the 1993 Waco debacle. There certainly appears to be a problem in Phoenix that may, at the very least, require an attitude adjustment.

An e-mail sent to field agents nearly one year ago by David J. Voth, group supervisor of Phoenix Group VII, criticized the expressions of concern about “Fast and Furious” from his agents. He contended that the ATF operation should be “fun.” That e-mail was one of the attachments to the letter Sen. Grassley sent yesterday to Holder, excerpted here:

I don’t know what all the issues are but we are all adults, we are all professionals, and we have a (sic) exciting opportunity to use the biggest tool in our law enforcement tool box. If you don’t think this is fun you’re in the wrong line of work – period! This is the pinnacle of domestic

U.S. law enforcement techniques. After this the tool bag is empty. Maybe the Maricopa County Jail is hiring detention officers and you can get paid $30,000 (instead of $100,000) to serve lunch to inmates all day…We need to get over this bump in the road once and for all and get on with the mission at hand. This can be the most fun you have with ATF, the only one limiting the amount of fun we have is you!—e-mail from David J. Voth, group supervisor, Phoenix Group VII

The “Fast and Furious” controversy is not, said the source, connected with the arrest of three Dallas, TX-area men this week in connection with the slaying of another federal agent, Jaime Zapata, last month in northern Mexico. This column discussed that case here. That case, said the ATF source, demonstrates the difference between ATF operations in Texas and Phoenix. In Texas, the suspects were stopped in November with 40 unmarked guns near the border crossing in Laredo and their guns were confiscated.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which ran the operation, said that 1,765 guns were sold to suspected smugglers during a 15-month period of the investigation. Of those, 797 were recovered on both sides of the border, including 195 in Mexico after they were used in crimes, collected during arrests or intercepted through other law enforcement operations.—Los Angeles Times

The source could not understand why the U.S. Attorney’s office in Dallas did not charge the men at the time. Instead, all three were arrested on Monday after a gun recovered at the Zapata crime scene was traced back to one of them from a transaction last Oct. 10 in Forth Worth.

The Portland operation also looks like ATF worked things correctly. Instead of allowing guns to “walk,” agents moved in and bagged the bad guys, their illicit guns and their drugs. More than 60 indictments were handed down by the U.S. Attorney in Portland.

More than 30 people were arrested in Arizona in January and charged in sweeping indictments with gun running and other offenses. However, those arrests came far too late for Agent Terry, and for countless other victims of Mexican drug cartel violence, it appears.
See these related articles on the Gunrunner controversy:

Los Angeles Times

Center for Public Integrity

Dallas Morning News

Dallas Morning News Editorial

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