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Old 10-15-2011, 06:00 AM
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NRA's LaPierre: 'Fast and Furious' Was Plot Against Second Amendment
Friday, 14 Oct 2011 06:50 PM (Video at link)

By Martin Gould and Ashley Martella


The government-sanctioned gunrunning operation, Fast and Furious, was a plot to undermine Second Amendment rights in the United States, National Rifle Association president Wayne LaPierre charged on Friday in an exclusive interview with Newsmax.TV.

“It’s the only thing that makes any sense,” LaPierre said. “Over a period of two or three years they were running thousands and thousands of guns to the most evil people on earth. At the same time they were yelling ’90 per cent… of the guns the Mexican drug cartels are using come from the United States.’

“That was a phony figure from the very start. Even the Wikileaks cables from our own State Department prove they are coming from Central America, they are not coming from the U.S. Every police officer will tell you that they’re coming from Russia, they’re coming from China, most of them are coming from Central America and a lot of them are coming from defections from the Mexican Army.”

But LaPierre said that President Barack Obama, Attorney General Eric Holder and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton were determined to make it appear that most weapons used by the Mexicans came from north of the border, “so they could stick more gun legislation on honest American gun owners of the United States.”

LaPierre insisted that the whole Fast and Furious scandal, in which he said “thousands and thousands” of weapons were allowed to cross into Mexico, would never have come to light at all if it hadn’t been for last December’s murder of U.S. Border Agent Brian Terry in Arizona.

“We wouldn’t know about this at all if (Terry) had not been killed and some of the good, honest, decent federal agents down the line had enough of the stench coming out of Washington and started to use the Whistleblower Act to go public and call the Justice Department out on this whole rotten, stinking scheme.

“Otherwise thousands of guns would still be going over the border into the Mexican drug cartels and the president and the attorney general and the secretary of state would all be running around going ’90 percent of the guns come from America’ in an attempt to seek political advantage and in an attempt to enact more gun control laws on honest American citizens and use this whole issue politically against the Second Amendment of the United States.”

LaPierre says Fast and Furious is the biggest cover-up since the Watergate scandal that brought down Richard Nixon in the early-1970s.

“Look at what has happened,” he said. “We had our Department of Justice under the Obama administration running thousands and thousands of guns over the border and watching them go directly into the hands of some of the most evil people on earth, the Mexican drug cartels.

“At the same time they were letting the reputation of good, honest, decent Americans, law-abiding American gun dealers, be ruined.

“They ordered these sales to be made, they even overrode the InstaCheck system and ordered the dealers to make the sales. Then, when it all starts coming out, there’s a massive cover-up.”

He joined the chorus of Republican Congressmen calling for Holder to quit and for a special prosecutor to be appointed to investigate the entire scandal which has resulted in dozens of crimes committed both in the U.S. and in Mexico being committed with the smuggled weapons.

“My gosh, Valerie Plame gets a special prosecutor,” he said, referring to the CIA agent whose name was leaked during the George W. Bush presidency. “And all we get on Fast and Furious, where people are dead, a federal agent is dead, hundreds of crimes are being committed, is an Eric Holder cover-up.

“They crossed the line. They need to be held responsible. We need to get to the bottom of this and the only way we are going to get to the bottom of it is a special prosecutor.”

He rebutted Democratic claims that subpoenas issued this week by the House Oversight Committee chairman Rep. Darrell Issa were nothing more than a politically motivated “fishing expedition.”

LaPierre said, “Do we really want our Department of Justice … running thousands of guns into the hands of the Mexican drug cartels? Running a massive campaign to manipulate public opinion? Ruining the lives of good, honest American citizens when they knew the truth, and then participating in a massive cover-up?

“Doesn’t that sound like something that would happen more from a South American dictatorship than what we expect in the Good Ol’ USA?

“This can’t be allowed to stand. What has happened in Fast and Furious is the equivalent of our Justice Department becoming willing co-conspirators with the Mexican drug cartels in their crimes. If any citizen in this country had sold a gun to the Mexican drug cartels and then those cartels had used those guns to kill good, honest, decent people, any U.S. Attorney worth his salt would indict that citizen for accessory to murder. That’s what’s happened here.”

LaPierre said that re-electing Obama to a second term would destroy Second Amendment rights, claiming that his Supreme Court appointees would “erase the Second Amendment from the Bill of Rights and exorcise it from the Constitution of the U.S.”

But he said the NRA had not and will not endorse any individual GOP candidate. “All those candidates have positive records on the Second Amendment issues. We are not going to get into the Republican primaries,” he said.

“Our job is to protect the Second Amendment and that means that every gun owner, every Second Amendment supporter needs to do everything they can to make sure that President Obama does not get a second term so that he can destroy the Second Amendment.

“This is the most dangerous election in our lifetime for the Second Amendment freedom that American citizens have. A second term by President Obama will break the back of that freedom in this country.”



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Who in DOJ Knew About ‘Fast & Furious,’ and How Much?

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There is another issue here that has an opportunity to be addressed. Notice this is all about guns leaving the US to go into the hands of criminals.

Well, exactly how are the guns leaving the US? What is the legal status of the act of moving anything, people or guns from inside the US to outside the US. Border issues typical are posed as having to do with people and contraband moving into the US. Nobody seems to be concerned with traffic the other way. Recall again the notion "self deportation" and many opposed to illegals support the idea that illegals should just wander back where they came from the same way they got in.

If we are to be concerned about borders, we have to be concerned about traffic crossing into the US and crossing out of the US. We need to accept that it is possible to leave the US illegally, especially if you got in illegally. Under no circumstances should we allow illegals to just cross out of the country any time they feel like. They are likely to continue to traffic in something illegal, like weapons and, most likely, stolen weapons and other stolen property.

We need to police our borders for both directions, going in and going out.
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There is another issue here that has an opportunity to be addressed. Notice this is all about guns leaving the US to go into the hands of criminals.

Well, exactly how are the guns leaving the US? What is the legal status of the act of moving anything, people or guns from inside the US to outside the US. Border issues typical are posed as having to do with people and contraband moving into the US. Nobody seems to be concerned with traffic the other way. Recall again the notion "self deportation" and many opposed to illegals support the idea that illegals should just wander back where they came from the same way they got in.

If we are to be concerned about borders, we have to be concerned about traffic crossing into the US and crossing out of the US. We need to accept that it is possible to leave the US illegally, especially if you got in illegally. Under no circumstances should we allow illegals to just cross out of the country any time they feel like. They are likely to continue to traffic in something illegal, like weapons and, most likely, stolen weapons and other stolen property.

We need to police our borders for both directions, going in and going out.
Both are already controlled, but not the way they are supposed to be. the globalists have encouraged each successive administration to be the controlling force, and not the written law. Our laws were enacted democratically by congress, but the administrations do not recognize congress's power. Bush, clinton, bush, and obama have all been the gatekeepers that decide who and what comes and goes. They are supposed to be enforcing the laws, not making them
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