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Old 09-01-2010, 12:27 PM
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Along with the witless name calling, you failed to the answer the question.

Was the dope-dealing scumbag an anchor baby? Were his parents US citizens? Pretty simple question.

Anyone else care to give it a try?

Here's another question, if he wasn't an anchor baby, then where did he become fluent in Spanish? He must have been fluent in Spanish, else he could not have run an organized crime syndicate out of Mexico.
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Along with the witless name calling, you failed to the answer the question.

Was the dope-dealing scumbag an anchor baby? Were his parents US citizens? Pretty simple question.

Anyone else care to give it a try?

Here's another question, if he wasn't an anchor baby, then where did he become fluent in Spanish? He must have been fluent in Spanish, else he could not have run an organized crime syndicate out of Mexico.
I didn't call you any names, just described your behavior.

Have you ever been to Laredo?

Give it a try sometime, stroll around the streets in both the barrio and on snob hill, you might learn something.

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A former counterterrorism agent with the U.S. State Department said "He's a kid you would not expect, coming from a nice family, upper-middle class, living the American dream. The next thing you know, he's swallowed up in this narco business and has become highly successful."
Money has a way of "persuading" people, even you.

Money talks and bullshit walks.

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...When Edgar Valdez played high-school football in his home town of Laredo on the Texas-Mexico border, a coach nicknamed him Barbie because of his blond hair, fair complexion, and the colour of his eyes...

...Unlike most traffickers, who are born into poverty, Mr. Valdez hails from a middle-class family. He played American football at school, became bilingual and developed a taste for luxury cars, nightclubs and Versace clothes...

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/wor...150/story.html
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Yet some more.

I don't think in his case it really matters whether this dirt bag is an "anchor baby" or not. He is a very smart, sophisticated, pathological criminal. An unusual person among any population...

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Man or Myth? American Drug Lord 'La Barbie' Fascinates and Terrorizes

Edgar Valdez-Villareal at Forefront of Drug Wars, Killing Hundreds Along the Mexican Border

By JOHN QUINONES (ABC NEWS)
May 19, 2010


For some along the Texas-Mexico border, Edgar Valdez-Villareal is an American success story.

Valdez-Villareal is a wealthy businessman from Laredo, Texas, who has hit the big time, raking in millions of dollars. Now living the good life in Mexico, he drives fancy cars and has been nicknamed "La Barbie," thanks to his good looks.

Beautiful women want to be with him, and back in Texas, kids say they want to be like him. "Guys like money," said one male high school student who had heard stories about Valdez-Villareal. "They get fame, they get girls, they get houses. They get everything they want."...

...'La Barbie' Reputation Takes on Mythic Proportions

"La Barbie is a fascinating character that has reached the proportions of myth," said Fred Burton, vice president of intelligence for Stratfor Global Intelligence, who has followed Valdez-Villareal's rise to power. Burton is a former counterterrorism agent with the U.S. State Department.

"He's a kid you would not expect, coming from a nice family, upper-middle class, living the American dream," Burton said. "And the next thing you know, he's swallowed up in this narco business and has become highly successful."

So how did Valdez-Villareal go from being a high school football standout in Texas to one of the most wanted narco bosses in Mexico? Authorities say it all began by selling pot on the streets of Laredo.

"We were going to buy 300 pounds of marijuana. We met up with him, we talked, we negotiated," recalled Webb County Sheriff Martin Cuellar.
When the officers went to complete the deal, Valdez-Villareal never showed up. "You know, I guess he smelled something," said Cuellar...


...'La Barbie' Moves Across Border, Joining with Mexican Cartels

Soon, Valdez-Villareal took his drug business across the border, where his charisma, personality and fluency in English and Spanish put him in the good graces of the drug cartel leaders.

"He knows both sides," said a Texas homicide detective who asked ABC News to keep his identity a secret. "He knows our way of thinking, our ways of operating, so he uses that to his advantage. It helps him tremendously."
The detective says that La Barbie quickly went from pot dealer to cartel hit man.

"That's how he started building a name for himself," the detective said, claiming that Valdez-Villareal had personally killed or ordered the deaths of hundreds of people...

...La Barbie became the enforcer for a major drug cartel, waging war against another cartel, officials say. In 2005 and 2006, the border city of Nuevo Laredo was their battlefield, where there were nearly 200 murders a year.

"This is like the mafia wars of the '50s and '60s playing out in New York City as to which crime family is going to take control," said the detective...

...Message to the Mexican Government

So brazen is Valdez-Villareal, authorities said, that he sent a message to the Mexican government printed in a local newspaper.

Filmmaker Rusty Fleming, who researched Valdez for his film 'Drug Wars,' summarized the message, saying, "You're never going to eradicate the supply of dope any more than you are going to eradicate the demand ... somebody's going to do it and I'm the lesser of all evils. We don't kill women and children. If you're going to have somebody smuggling drugs through our country to the U.S. and the world, it should be me."...

[And now a word from Mom]

...No Contact With His Mother

On the American side of the border, ABC News tracked down Valdez-Villareal's mother, who described him as a good man, but admitted she hasn't heard from her son "in a very long time."

"There is never a good outcome with a kid like this," said the detective, who asked to remain anonymous. "He's either going to be killed or captured by the Mexican military or federal police inside of Mexico, or he is going to die in a hail of bullets by a cartel rival."


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Still nothing about his parents. Were they US citizens? How did this scumbag become fluent in Spanish?
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Still nothing about his parents. Were they US citizens? How did this scumbag become fluent in Spanish?
There isn't very much on the Internet about Villarreal's family. His father was a night club and bar owner. Found one header saying the father murdered the family but no details. Also says he grew up in a middle income family. The media isn't reporting on the family.

Just look at his name. He is Mexican American born in Laredo, a border town. Certainly his family all spoke Spanish at home.

For my trouble while surfing and opening various websites about Villarreal my computer was attacked and the attack was stopped by my anti-virus. Said it was a high priority, serious attack !
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There isn't very much on the Internet about Villarreal's family. His father was a night club and bar owner. Found one header saying the father murdered the family but no details. Also says he grew up in a middle income family. The media isn't reporting on the family.

Just look at his name. He is Mexican American born in Laredo, a border town. Certainly his family all spoke Spanish at home.

For my trouble while surfing and opening various websites about Villarreal my computer was attacked and the attack was stopped by my anti-virus. Said it was a high priority, serious attack !
My computer was attacked as well.

The name doesn't mean anything about what language he spoke at home or the national origin of his parents. I know a person from New Mexico whose family has been here since the Spaniards founded Santa Fe in the 1600s. He looks like an Indian, his brother is white looking and has blond hair and blue eyes. The style of Spanish they speak with their elderly mother long predates the Mexican Spanish brought here in relatively recent times.

The account says he played football and became bilingual. Growing up in a middle class family in a middle class suburb and attending an English speaking high school, the wording suggests that he learned Spanish. Besides, I believe pandering media would have a lot out of his middle class parents if they originated out of Mexican poverty.

How did I learn what Spanish I know? Some of it in school and the rest by being around Spanish speakers.

As far as the father murdering the family, I believe that would be another story bundled with the search item "Edgar Valdez" + "family" result. He is described as coming from a nice family by an ex federal agent, his mother spoke with ABC last May, and the sensationalism of familicide combined with a notorious gangster would have been too much for the media to resist. Perhaps for once the media is leaving innocent relatives alone.

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Why is this so important!? Barbie is a scum bag no matter what his back ground is!
Some people incessantly wash their hands. During the fifties, some people saw a communist under every rock.

Was Al Capone an "anchor baby" and did he speak Italian? It doesn't matter in the scope of how he made his mark on history.

This is the short explanation of Valdez and Capone in their respective times:

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Beautiful women want to be with him, and back in Texas, kids say they want to be like him. "Guys like money," said one male high school student who had heard stories about Valdez-Villareal. "They get fame, they get girls, they get houses. They get everything they want."...
Oldest story in the world concerning ambition.
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Old 09-02-2010, 08:52 AM
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There isn't very much on the Internet about Villarreal's family. His father was a night club and bar owner. Found one header saying the father murdered the family but no details. Also says he grew up in a middle income family. The media isn't reporting on the family.

Just look at his name. He is Mexican American born in Laredo, a border town. Certainly his family all spoke Spanish at home.

For my trouble while surfing and opening various websites about Villarreal my computer was attacked and the attack was stopped by my anti-virus. Said it was a high priority, serious attack !
If his father was a night club and bar owner and Mexican in a border town, then he was very ripe to be in or working with organized crime himself. And the facility with which his son became dominant in organized crime suggests a family relation as well. Many organized crime figures look upper or middle class. And for all the reports we are getting about his appearances and social stature and the fact that his family is a complete blank really points out the problem.

It is pretty suspicious to suggest that this guy learned to speak Spanish in high school well enough to run an organized crime syndicate in Mexico. Mexican criminal figures are very fussy about who they do business with and aren't going to keep some tourist from Laredo in power just because he speaks high school Spanish.

The public needs to know everything about this guy's background and especially whether his parents were citizens or not and the circumstances of their presence in the US. Isn't this obvious?

This is how bad its gotten. Don't fixate on the anchor babies coming under the public welfare system. A lot of these anchor babies who loom as this kind of threat, or worse, are growing up middle class, paid for and enabled by middle class pandering to illegal immigration. And when the illegals are themselves middle class, the problem has even worse potential.

Al Capone's parents were legal immigrants. Al Capone was one of nine children who adopted a life of crime before he dropped out of school. Since his parents were naturalized citizens, he does not fit the definition of "anchor baby", which isn't to say he wasn't evidence of an immigration problem. He was.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_capone

Incidentally their is practically nothing on La Barbie at Wikipedia,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Valdez_Villarreal
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The public needs to know everything about this guy's background and especially whether his parents were citizens or not and the circumstances of their presence in the US. Isn't this obvious?
With this sort of reasoning I suppose it's obvious that since Jeffery Dahmer was a white homosexual cannibal with parents who were English speaking American citizens...

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Still nothing about his parents. Were they US citizens? How did this scumbag become fluent in Spanish?
Why is this so important!? Barbie is a scum bag no matter what his back ground is!
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