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Old 03-18-2011, 09:34 AM
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I cannot help but point out the simultaneous effort on the open borders lobby side to push the agenda. It's too coincidental to ignore.

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Kim Nalder, an associate professor of government at California State University, Sacramento, said the party should seek to "get away from the uncooperative, obstructionist stance that we've seen in the legislative Republicans in the last few years."

Chief among the characteristics a winning candidate will demonstrate, consultants say, is an ability to win support of the growing Latino population, which has for years been alienated by anti-illegal immigration rhetoric and policies.

"Republicans in California will not win statewide in future elections unless we compete more vigorously and more aggressively for Latino votes," said veteran GOP consultant Marty Wilson, who released on Thursday a poll showing the GOP can appeal to Latinos on education and economic issues.
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Old 03-19-2011, 08:35 AM
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Maybe then for Republicans to compete against the Democrats in California it would be necessary to toss out more freebies than Democrats.

Logic is that people who vote for more taxes will tend to be either people who don't pay taxes or whose lifestyle wouldn't be altered by paying those extra taxes.

Again, it is logical that those who receive social services would support politicians who dole out social services. So, who is more likely to receive social services?

According to Assemblyman Roy Ashburn in 1997 when times were much better

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Take a hard look at the following, frightening statistics:

* Of the 2.6 million people in California now on welfare, 1996-97 grants will total $6 billion.
* California has more people on welfare than 20 states have people.
* California accounts for 28 percent of all money spent nationwide on the AFDC program. Yet, we have only 12 percent of the nation's population.

* California has 38 percent of the nation's legal immigrants on welfare. Fourteen percent of those on welfare in California are illegal immigrants.

California's working families can no longer subsidize a broken, self-perpetuating system that wastes billions of their dollars every year. The "war on poverty" should have been called a "war on family."
There's only so much tax revenue to be appropriated.

According to Investor's Daily in November 2010:

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The 'Golden State' Still Doesn't Get It

Posted 11/04/2010 07:10 PM ET

States: The midterm elections turned into a sweeping repudiation of the Democrats' failed status quo — except, that is, in California. There, not only did the Democrats not lose, they gained clout.

Even as voters in other states said they'd had enough of ever bigger, more intrusive and higher-cost government by the Democrats, California voters said, "More please."

With the exception of the governor's office, California has been a virtual one-party state since the 1960s. Now, thanks to decades of anti-business policies promulgated by a series of left-leaning legislatures, its economy and finances are a mess, and it's hemorrhaging jobs, businesses and productive entrepreneurs to other states.

The pattern continued on Tuesday, when voters rehired 1970s Democratic gubernatorial retread Jerry Brown and rejected moderate Republican and former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina for far-left, five-term incumbent Sen. Barbara Boxer.

How bad has it gotten in the erstwhile Golden State? Consider:

• Some 2.3 million Californians are without jobs, for a 12.4% unemployment rate — one of the highest in the country.

• From 2001 to 2010, factory jobs plummeted from 1.87 million to 1.23 million — a loss of 34% of the state's industrial base. Ask any company, and it'll tell you the same thing: It's now almost impossible to build a big factory in California.

With just 12% of the U.S. population, California has almost a third of the nation's welfare recipients. Some joke the state motto should be changed from "The Golden State" to "The Welfare State." Meanwhile, 15.3% of all Californians live in poverty.

The state budget gap for 2009-10 was $45.5 billion, or 53% of total state spending — the largest in any state's history.

The state's sales tax is the nation's highest, and its income tax the third-highest, the BusinessInsider.com Web site recently noted. Meanwhile, the Tax Foundation's "State Business Tax Climate Index" ranks California 48th.

• In a ranking by corporate relocation expert Ronald Pollina of the 50 states based on 31 factors for job creation, California finished dead last.

• In another ranking, this one by the Beacon Hill Institute on state competitiveness, California came in 32nd — down seven spots in just one year.

California is home to 25% of America's 12 million to 20 million illegal immigrants. A 2004 study estimated that illegals cost the state's citizens $10.5 billion a year — roughly $1,200 per family.


• Unfunded pension liabilities for California's state and public employees may be as much as $500 billion — roughly 17% of the nation's total $3 trillion at the state and local level.
Ok, let's compete with Democrats.
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Old 03-19-2011, 08:57 AM
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Can't help myself, here's a little more of where Republicans have to close ranks with Democrats in California:

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Welfare benefits for the children of illegal immigrants
cost America’s largest county more than $600 million last year,
according to a local official keeping tabs on the cost.

Los Angeles County Supervisor Michael Antonovich released new
statistics this week showing social spending for those families in his
county rose to $53 million in November, putting the county government on
track to spend more than $600 million on related costs for the year —
up from $570 million in 2009.

Antonovich arrived at the estimate by factoring in the cost of food
stamps and welfare-style benefits through a state program known as
CalWORKS. Combined with public safety costs and health care costs, the
official claimed the “total cost for illegal immigrants to county
taxpayers” was more than $1.6 billion in 2010.


Not including the hundreds of millions of dollars for education,” he said in a statement.

Antonovich’s figures, though, center on costs generated by
American-born children of illegal immigrants.

Isabel Alegria, communications director at the California Immigrant Policy Center, said it’s
“unfair” to roll together costs associated with both illegal immigrants and U.S.-born citizens.
Isabel, the US born citizens referred to are children of illegals, so the two go hand in hand.

Hence the Democratic vote.
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Old 03-19-2011, 10:19 AM
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I believe I did it right to arrive at a welfare figure of approximately $162.47 per person in Los Angeles county at an estimated 2009 population figure of 9848011 with a $1600000000.00 cost. http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06/06037.html

Housing units 2009 3,390,795 Approximately $471.87 per household.

The questions to me are:

How may individuals are Taxpayers? Children, welfare recipients, people who work for cash, non working spouses or "household partners" and those running criminal enterprises generally do not pay income taxes.

What is the tax burden of this welfare per tax paying individual in Los Angeles County?

How much money is diverted around sales and other taxes?

Thinking out loud... The welfare cost burden per person divided into household welfare burden figure is 2.9 people per household, and population divided by household comes to 2.9 per household.

Hmmmmm. Somehow, this doesn't sound right.




LA County's 2010 - 2011 budget is 23.175 Billion. http://file.lacounty.gov/lac/cms1_151209.pdf

Of this:

Social Services 24%

Health 22%

Public protection 20%

Special funds / district 23%

Other 11%


LA County's income / Resources 23.175 Billion

Property taxes 20%

Federal assistance 22%

State assistance 22%

Other 36%


1.6 billion for direct welfare costs according to Antonovich equals almost 7% of the total budget.

Per household share of both budget and resources equals $6834.68.

Locally generated revenue is only $6.034 Billion, less than 27% of the budget.

Social services and health alone are 64% of the budget.

WOW.
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Old 03-19-2011, 10:27 AM
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2008 Los Angeles county demographics

As of: January 1, 2008[16]

* Total population: 10,363,850, or about 27% of California's population. The county population increased 8.1% between 2000 and 2008.

Non Hispanic Persons: 52.7%

* White: 29.2%
* African American: 9.6%
* Asian: 13.1%
* Other: 0.90%
* Hispanic or Latino: 47.3%



Other Statistics

* Male Residents: 49.4%
* Female Residents: 50.6%
* Residents Aged under 18: 27.6%
* Residents Aged between 19 and 64: 62.3%
* Residents Aged above 65: 10.1%

* Foreign born: 36.2% (a majority born in Mexico)
* Poverty Level: 17.7%
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