Shariah On The Move

[Don]

In High School I was assigned a report on Islam and was quite surprised by what I learned. Islam has more in common with organized crime organizations like the Mafia than any religion. Islam does indeed have a dual set of ethics: One set of ethics for dealings with other muslims and another set of ethics for non-Muslims. Islam does authorized deception to gain an advantage over non-muslims.

Muslims are not here because of mass conversions of Americans but because of a treasonous immigration policy that let thousands of them come here. They have been enemies of Western Civilization for 1,200 years. They invaded Europe and were stopped in 732 by Charles Martel at the battle of Tours, just south of Paris, France. This was 300 years before the first Crusade. After that Muslims continually attacked and enslaved white Europeans through outright war, piracy and kidnapping. Muslims were also heavily involved with Jews in the African slave trade as well.

As recently as 1631, Barbary Pirates from Islamic Algeria attacked Ireland and kidnapped the entire village of Baltimore, Ireland, enslaved them and transported them back to Africa.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Baltimore


In or about 1803, the infant United States republic had to go to war with the Barbary Pirates to stop their seizure of American ships and kidnapping and enslavement of Americans.

More recently, in the aftermath of WW2 and Indian independence, Muslims in that country touched off a civil war with the Hindu majority that caused 1 million dead and resulted in the partition of India and the creation of the Islamic state of Pakistan. Even today, Pakistan and India are nuclear powers who are poised at each other's throats. Muslims and hindus co-existed for hundreds of years in India, but the minute the British gave independence, the Muslims tried to dominate other Indians. Muslims have always tried to dominate other countries and stamp out or exact tribute from other religions. They are out enemy and sooner or later we're going to have to deal with them. The certainly intend to deal with us.

[Twoller]

Originally Posted by Don

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... Muslims and hindus co-existed for hundreds of years in India, but the minute the British gave independence, the Muslims tried to dominate other Indians. Muslims have always tried to dominate other countries and stamp out or exact tribute from other religions. They are out enemy and sooner or later we're going to have to deal with them. The certainly intend to deal with us.

Muslims were a colonial force in India before the English, India was a subject of an Islamic empire once. The English got along better with the Muslims then they did with the Hindu. Pakistan was, in many ways, the result of English influence during India's struggle for independence under Ghandi.

[Kathy63]

The English DID? Really?

Charles Martel might have a disagreement with that.

[Twoller]

Originally Posted by Kathy63

The English DID? Really?

Charles Martel might have a disagreement with that.

Charles Martel? Who's that? Links?

[Kathy63]

Originally Posted by Twoller

Charles Martel? Who's that? Links?

Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it.

Charles' victory at the Battle of Tours saved Western Europe from the Muslim invasions and was a turning point in European history.

The British did not befriend muslims, they conquered them and occupied almost the whole of the middle east. The British have fought against islam since the First Crusades.

When I mentioned Charles Martel, I was actually thinking of Gen. Charles Gordon, got my Charles' confused. The West has been fighting islam for CENTURIES.


Charles Gordon and the fall of Khartoum 1885
Soon after Gordon left Sudan, the country rose up in rebellion under a religious leader called the Mahdi. Several Egyptian armies were wiped out, and many foreigners were murdered. Although most people in the British Government didn't want to get involved, the strange tangles of diplomacy at the time meant that Britain had a duty to Egypt. In a strange compromise, it was decided to send Charles Gordon alone to the capital city of Khartoum to arrange for the evacuation of all foreign troops. Arriving in the city in late February, Charles Gordon found himself immediately cut off by the forces of the Mahdi. Nearly a year later, in the early days of 1885, Khartoum was sacked by the forces of the Mahdi and Charles Gordon was killed. The next day, the first elements of a British relief expedition reached the city.



Read more at Suite101: General Charles Gordon: The Life and Death of Chinese Gordon http://www.suite101.com/content/gene...#ixzz0ylOsBHti

We are STILL fighting islam. You can easily google both and get some idea of how long we have been fighting islam.

[Twoller]

Originally Posted by Kathy63

Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it.

Charles' victory at the Battle of Tours saved Western Europe from the Muslim invasions and was a turning point in European history.

The British did not befriend muslims, they conquered them and occupied almost the whole of the middle east. The British have fought against islam since the First Crusades.

When I mentioned Charles Martel, I was actually thinking of Gen. Charles Gordon, got my Charles' confused. The West has been fighting islam for CENTURIES.


Charles Gordon and the fall of Khartoum 1885
Soon after Gordon left Sudan, the country rose up in rebellion under a religious leader called the Mahdi. Several Egyptian armies were wiped out, and many foreigners were murdered. Although most people in the British Government didn't want to get involved, the strange tangles of diplomacy at the time meant that Britain had a duty to Egypt. In a strange compromise, it was decided to send Charles Gordon alone to the capital city of Khartoum to arrange for the evacuation of all foreign troops. Arriving in the city in late February, Charles Gordon found himself immediately cut off by the forces of the Mahdi. Nearly a year later, in the early days of 1885, Khartoum was sacked by the forces of the Mahdi and Charles Gordon was killed. The next day, the first elements of a British relief expedition reached the city.



Read more at Suite101: General Charles Gordon: The Life and Death of Chinese Gordon http://www.suite101.com/content/gene...#ixzz0ylOsBHti

We are STILL fighting islam. You can easily google both and get some idea of how long we have been fighting islam.

I don't see resistance to Islam in Europe as being necessarily anti-Islam and that goes for the past as well as the present. I don't trust Geert Wilders either. A quick look at the Wikipedia entry for Charles Martel shows that he was just as happy to fight the Saxons. I am convinced that the history of Islam is the history of Islam colonialism as being applied as a hedge against resistance to Catholicism. The history of progress in Europe is largely the history of resistance to Rome.

Gordon's exploits in Sudan were the result of the hand of British empire and colonialism. Gordon was not interested in freeing Sudan from Islam as much as he was insterested in imposing British authority. And British colonial authority has never made been as aggressive against Islam as it has against other non-theist beliefs as in India. Gordon's outrage against Catholic advancement in England is more respectable, but his motives are hard to fathom there too.

[Kathy63]

You said that the British were friendlier to the muslims than the Hindus. I did nothing but point out that the British, indeed Europe as a whole have no history of friendly relationships with islam or any part of it.

Europe has had to periodically toss islam back into the pit from which it periodically emerges and this is one of those times. Whether or not Charles Martel fought the Saxons or Winston Churchill once fought the Germans.

If you believe that British authority against islam has never been as agressive as against other belief systems, that is your perogative. I'd say that your education in this area is lacking just a bit, but that too is just my opinion.

If Europe does not or cannot shove islam back to where it came from, it will find itself returned to the 8th century. If we do not or cannot shove islam back to where it came from, so will we.