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Old 09-09-2010, 09:09 AM
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Nobody here at SOS likes Chelene, that much is clear. But I still hear nothing about what she is actually saying and what she wants to do as California governor. It's all personal. And frankly, based on my experience here, it's really hard to be impressed that she is not fit for the office if I am to go by postings here alone.

Actually Chelene doesn't have much to say about what she wants to do either. Her recent walk-a-thon was just a display with little or no comments from her about what it was supposed to mean.

If nobody here intends to support Chelene, then where are you going to place your votes? Anywhere? Whitman?

Chelene's support of 1070 is enough for me to consider voting for her. But I haven't heard her speak on that again.
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Old 09-09-2010, 10:01 AM
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If nobody here intends to support Chelene, then where are you going to place your votes? Anywhere? Whitman?

Chelene's support of 1070 is enough for me to consider voting for her. But I haven't heard her speak on that again.
In your case you are voting your conscience when voting for Chelene and I do not have an issue with that.

I will not be voting for her, Brown or NutMeg simply because I do not find any of them to be suitable for the job. I believe that there is a write-in option and I will exercise it without mentioning my preferred candidate.

My candidate will not become governor and neither will yours, Chelene.
We will both have voted as concerned Americans and we can at the very least have a clear conscience with respect to our choices.
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Old 09-09-2010, 10:03 AM
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Nobody here at SOS likes Chelene, that much is clear. But I still hear nothing about what she is actually saying and what she wants to do as California governor. It's all personal. And frankly, based on my experience here, it's really hard to be impressed that she is not fit for the office if I am to go by postings here alone.

Actually Chelene doesn't have much to say about what she wants to do either. Her recent walk-a-thon was just a display with little or no comments from her about what it was supposed to mean.

If nobody here intends to support Chelene, then where are you going to place your votes? Anywhere? Whitman?

Chelene's support of 1070 is enough for me to consider voting for her. But I haven't heard her speak on that again.
There were some people who didn't approve of Pol Pot before he came to power, and look what happened to Cambodia.

I believe Chelene is best ignored, but she dispensed some very deep wounds among some here, and is sort of like OJ, Rodney King or Paris Hilton and such - she just won't go away. So I can see how it would be somewhat therapeutic to ridicule her airs of grandeur and gloat over her misfortunes. Chelene brought a lot of it on herself.

As far as desirable gubernatorial candidates, the order depending depending on whose ox is getting gored, the choices are bad, worse, terrible, and unfathomable.

My opinion is if Chelene supports 1070, that's the only thing she brings to the table. I believe she would be shrill, pushy, ignorant of legislative process and negotiation, and get slapped around by politicians who bite back with a lot more than lawsuits.

Think Sacramento is a circus now? you ain't seen nothing yet if Chelene were by some fluke to be elected.
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Old 09-09-2010, 11:08 AM
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Nobody here at SOS likes Chelene, that much is clear. But I still hear nothing about what she is actually saying and what she wants to do as California governor. It's all personal. And frankly, based on my experience here, it's really hard to be impressed that she is not fit for the office if I am to go by postings here alone.

Actually Chelene doesn't have much to say about what she wants to do either. Her recent walk-a-thon was just a display with little or no comments from her about what it was supposed to mean.

If nobody here intends to support Chelene, then where are you going to place your votes? Anywhere? Whitman?

Chelene's support of 1070 is enough for me to consider voting for her. But I haven't heard her speak on that again.
I liked Chelene, until she became a Ron Paul kool-aid drinker. On the old SOS I had serious reservations about Rep. Paul, and voiced them. That led to me being temporarily and ultimately, permanently banned.

Chelene is thin-skinned and has to have "enforcers" protecting her from her own naivete. Chelene's strength is her ability to do PR. I believe that if she had stayed in that position, and allowed people to do things that they had the gifts and talents to do, the old SOS would not have taken the turn it did, and ultimately died.

Chelene's support of AB 1070 is not enough to cause me to vote for her. Unlike Moonbeam, NutMeg and the other candidates for governor, I know Chelene. She does not posses the character and emotional stability to lead a state like California.

If the Tea Party/Patriot movement wants to change things, then it must begin at the local level. This is why I believe that Joe Turner had the idea when he ran for local office in San Bernardino. This movement must make in roads in local politics.

As far as who I will be voting for? I am not sure as of today who I will be voting for, but I can give you a list of three persons whom I will not be voting for: Moonbeam, NutMeg, and Nightin-mare.
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Old 09-09-2010, 12:17 PM
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Wow. Three responses and still not one willing to go out on a limb about concerns over what Chelene might actually do as governor, even when asked about it.

And I just got two emails from the Nightingale campaign that didn't have anything to say about that either.

It's definitely a very strange campaign.

At least Ron Paul had a plan and nobody could be confused about what it was. Or that it even existed.
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Old 09-09-2010, 12:32 PM
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I was a big supporter of Tom Campbell before he changed his mind and decided to run for the senate instead of governor. From what I understand Whitman threatened to use her vast financial resources to drag him through the mud if he didn't drop out of the governor's race. Now there's hardly much choice, but I'm not really into this third party stuff, which is basically a waste of time, so I'm going to do another one of those nose-holding acts and vote for Whitman. At least she gives some indication that she just might be able to straighten out the mess which used to be California, and most importantly she's not Jerry Brown.
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