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Old 02-08-2010, 10:32 AM
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Idaho, others prepare for California egg exodus

By John Miller, Associated Press
Updated: 02/08/2010 11:05:26 AM PST

BOISE, Idaho — Idaho is among several states watching to see if a California animal cruelty law drives flocks of big egg farms there to fly the coop.
California voters in 2008 approved Proposition 2, banning cramped cages for laying hens by 2015.

Neither Idaho nor Nevada, where officials are aggressively courting the Golden State egg industry, have restrictions on "battery cages" that leave chickens little room to spread their wings.

Idaho Sen. Tim Corder has no desire to change that in his state. Industry should decide, Corder insists.

Still, the Senate Agriculture Committee chairman does want to revamp rules governing where and how giant poultry farms are operated to skirt pitfalls that accompanied explosive growth of Idaho's dairy industry. His state went from 180,000 cows in 1990 to 530,000 in 2009 to become the third-biggest milk producer after California and Wisconsin, but the arrival of mega-dairies caught regulators flat-footed and prompted environmentalists to call foul.

"The time when agriculture can sweep in and do whatever it wants and nobody will say anything about it until it's too late, that time is past," said Corder, R-Mountain Home. "If we're going to do this, let's do it right from the start."

Corder, whose poultry plan is due for discussion in the Idaho Capitol this week, isn't alone in thinking henpecked California egg producers may come calling.

Following Prop 2, Nevada officials want to poach their share of a

possible egg exodus.

"We've contacted various members of poultry associations, especially in the California market," said Kathy Johnson, Pershing County's economic development director. "We're not trying to play predator. We're simply offering an option."

One University of California-funded study before the 2008 ballot measure concluded costs would rise 20 percent, including equipment investments and use of more feed, and result in virtually all egg production leaving after six years. Only 5 percent of U.S. egg production comes from non-caged hens.

California is the nation's fifth-largest egg producer, with 5 billion eggs annually. Iowa is tops, with 14.3 billion. Idaho and Nevada aren't even close.

So far, Debbie Murdock, executive director of the Association of California Egg Farmers, hasn't heard of any impending relocations to Idaho, Nevada or elsewhere.

Still, Prop 2 has her members' feathers ruffled.

"We have 20 million hens in this state," Murdock said. "It's a huge expense for us to have to move. It's a huge expense for us to change our housing. A move like this, especially in this economic climate, can be very scary."

The Humane Society of the United States, which backed Prop 2, says the industry is claiming the sky is falling to frighten other states from pursuing similar measures. And similar measures are coming: Michigan's governor signed legislation in October requiring more room for hens, while Ohio plans a vote next November.

Even without new laws, retailers like Bentonville, Ark.-based Wal-Mart Stores Inc. are independently demanding suppliers treat their chickens humanely, said Paul Shapiro, the Humane Society's factory farm campaign director.

"You see a shift in the marketplace, not because they are compelled to do so by law, but because they don't want to be selling a product that's criminally cruel to produce," Shapiro said.

Pam Juker, an Idaho Department of Agriculture chief of staff, concedes Idaho regulators struggled to keep pace when big dairies began targeting cheap Idaho land to build 5,000-cow dairies two decades ago. Air and water pollution concerns emerged, as did a backlash over smells. Today, a legal stink lingers between the Idaho Dairymen's Association and counties over power to regulate feedlots.

"The laws and rules had to be developed alongside the industry growth," Juker said. "With this (Corder's) proposed legislation, it will help to have the regulatory structure in place before a new industry settles in."

The Idaho Conservation League has highlighted nitrate threats to southern Idaho groundwater from millions of tons of dairy manure. Justin Hayes, a spokesman in Boise, said poorly regulated poultry farms could make things worse. He hasn't endorsed Corder's bill.

"There's not currently enough oversight of where we place dairy manure," Hayes said.

Even if California poultry operations don't find Idaho, Corder is sure others will.

Des Moines, Iowa-based Hy-Line North America last year opened a new facility in Burley, in southern Idaho, that hatches million of hens to be shipped elsewhere. And last month, commissioners there approved zoning changes to allow a broiler chicken plant to house up to 4 million birds. One thousand employees would process some 13,000 birds an hour.

"They aren't just coming," Corder said. "They're already here."
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Old 02-08-2010, 11:00 AM
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Yes, and more population means the need for more food which includes eggs. But we keep letting more people in to this country, and giving excuses as to why we're doing it and then why they should stay. Many of the illegals have their own hens and rosters so who's the loser when prices go up? Ya, that's right, you and me.
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Old 02-08-2010, 11:48 AM
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Billions of dollars will be lost to California because of this insane law. The effect isn't to make life better for chickens but to drive the state further into poverty.
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Old 02-08-2010, 01:01 PM
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Yes, and more population means the need for more food which includes eggs. But we keep letting more people in to this country, and giving excuses as to why we're doing it and then why they should stay. Many of the illegals have their own hens and rosters so who's the loser when prices go up? Ya, that's right, you and me.
More people mean they need more space, especially with building codes that prevent the squalor so common in South and Central America. Food production competes with housing production for space. Which will be required to yield first?

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Billions of dollars will be lost to California because of this insane law. The effect isn't to make life better for chickens but to drive the state further into poverty.
The effect is to force people into eating less meat. The vegetarians and the baby pukers are in league. You can get "free range" chicken, but it is insanely expensive.

Have a soylent green day, everyone!

The best thing to do is see the issue as a public health one. Is the public health served by squeezing chickens tighter and tighter together? Not really. Disease spreads like wildfire in an environment like this and the things they have to do to prevent that aren't very wholesome. You don't have to wring your hanky over what life must be like for a laying hen. There are other weird things they do to chickens to make them available for food. The more natural we can keep our meat supply, the better off we will be, vegetarians and baby pukers and their real estate developers be damned.
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Old 02-08-2010, 01:10 PM
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One more campaign against us by our occupation government.
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Old 02-11-2010, 09:38 AM
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We had feel good legislation promoted by the manipulative leading the stupid. I knew and most thinking people knew that the humane treatment of chickens act wasn't going to result in the humane treatment of chickens. It was going to result in chicken ranching leaving the state like every other industry that found itself under attack by well intentioned LOONS. Naturally once Petaluma was no longer the Egg Capital of the world, the inhumane treatment of chickens would continue just elsewhere.

Pay attention, Please. If you did not pay attention before do so now. Legislation is being proposed that would prohibit importing any poultry product including eggs, unless the producer meets California state guidelines. This will make chicken more expensive than porterhouse and put eggs close to if not over $10.00 a dozen.
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If you haven't seen the movie "Food Inc." yet, I recommend it.

Here's a trailer -
http://www.foodincmovie.com/

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